Category Archives: AEC

AEC – from the horse’s mouth

This is how we get a Prime Minister the day after an election when half the Lower House votes have been counted and none of the total of 16 per cent of postal votes have been looked at. The entire electoral system should be redesigned starting from a total physical habitation check by independent contractors giving a new and cleansed roll, optional preferential voting, no compulsory voting, install voter ID for postals and booths (which some Libs backed but not the ALP), reduce pre-polling to three days, no more how-to-vote cards at booths, place a maximum amount on all advertising by candidates and make the AFP do its job after getting complaints about electoral fraud.

To our knowledge the AFP has never investigated hundreds of prima facie cases of fraud reported after every election.

No doubt readers will add to this list but this would be a good start.

AEC demands for jabbed and masked workers backfires badly, disenfranchises voters, intentionally

19/5/22

UMPIRE  NOBBLES  ELECTORATE  – AEC Denies Right to Vote

To Adrian,  [Adrian McRae, GAP candidate for WA electorate of Durack]

I’m not sure the AEC could run a chook raffle let alone an election!  They ought to be able to because it’s said this one will cost taxpayers half a $billion!  Aside from Western Qld and regional SA areas, in YOUR electorate,  the Aust. Electoral Commission [AEC] announces, only two days out from the election, that these Durack polls may not open on Saturday:

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I’m wondering how many people could, or would bother to travel 100k or more in order to vote?  Or how many will roll up and find they can’t vote, and then miss out.  It’s shockingly unacceptable!

This is NOT due to Covid – this is just sheer incompetence.  The AEC WOULD be able to get casual workers if they didn’t mandate they be double-jabbed and wear masks.  Talk about interference in the political process by the AEC!!  Not to mention denying YOU and others your vote quota  enabling you to get reimbursed for some of the expenditure you put out  (a bipartisan scam) to give the electorate choices.  I didn’t think I’d see the day our AEC nobbled the electorate, but here we are!

It’s not enough that we have FOREIGN INTERFERENCE  by face book in our election by deleting posts they don’t like and not accepting payment to promote to electorate regions from minor parties and independents; or even that Australia Post is tardy in delivering electoral mail, irrespective of CONTRACTING  at PREMIUM rates to do so (some might call it taking money under false pretences); but the AEC puts the final nail in the coffin by disenfranchising electors, which is NOT the AEC’s right.  They’ve had long enough to sort it, and just haven’t!

What on earth could be behind this?  In your case, do you  think that this might be a thinly veiled political attack on the minor parties who the majors are afraid might  just pip them to the post when people actually put the majors last? (as per MajorsLast.com campaign)  Or perhaps your involvement with the Pt Hedland Council push to take on the State about mandates?

One can’t help wondering!  The AEC could have organised people in time – there WAS enough interest – but just not enough to get vaxxed – yet such discrimination against willing workers is unlawful and un-Australian.  The requirement is unconstitutional and an attack on our God-given free-will yet somehow we’ve been brainwashed to believe it’s OK, which is an attack on OUR RIGHT and DUTY to take part in the election process.   Then, it appears, the AEC, where there are grouped candidates (not a party) with no name at the top of the Senate ticket in a few States – just a blank box above the line –  upon inquiries from people, are given a variety of reasons why they shouldn’t tick that box, because doing so will mean the vote won’t be counted!  Not to mention them telling people that just putting 1 above the line won’t get counted either.  You probably don’t go to jail for stuffing up a chook-raffle, but you might if you nobble a horse, so what about when the AEC nobbles the nation?

I do hope people see through the way the majors think they can just herd people like sheep.  Their campaigns totally disregard INFLATION and the BIG ISSUES that minor parties are drawing attention to, such as our quasi-governance by various UN decrees, and especially current, our imminent ratification of changes to the WHO pandemic rules.   

I commend you (and those who have already made a difference by putting themselves forward as alternatives) for making the commitment to your electorate and Australia for all the right reasons.

Up there Cazaly, in there and fight!  Out there and at ‘em, show ‘em your might! 

Kind Regards,

J Bird

NSW

Australian Electoral Commission deliberately giving false and misleading information to voters

ELECTION WRITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED AND PUBLISHED

Cairns News has been warning for many years the AEC and its state subsidiaries are the most corrupt bureaucracies in Australia. The electoral roll has tens of thousands of false entries and postal voting is inherently corrupt because there is no requirement to for a voter to establish genuine identity.

Another voter already on the roll can vouch for an elector making a postal vote. When there are so many unverified voters on the roll it’s open slather for anyone to make as many postal votes with false names but real addresses as they like. Just as long as another unverified voter guarantees the applicant.

The only remedy is to scrap the entire roll and for AEC staff to undertake a physical habitation check on every household in the nation and start a new roll. This used to happen door-to-door but the AEC, under political pressure from the ALP dropped physical habitation surveys years ago.

There is no point voting when the outcome, as we have seen in 2022, is known before the poll occurs.

Writs have been issued and published in each state as required by the Commonwealth Electoral Act.

This writ for the Queensland senate election was published in the Courier Mail on April 13. The instrument is of the Commonwealth with a Queen then what is the Australian Government seal above?

Which Queen does the instrument refer to?

https://www.aec.gov.au/election/writs.htm

Dodgy AEC has always the most corrupt of all bureaucracies, changing rules midway

1/ https://www.aec.gov.au/Elections/candidates/files/scrutineers-handbook.pdf

AustraliaOneParty_Official, [18/05/2022 8:55 PM]

Today I received the following report from the Stanhope Gardens Leisure Centre Polling Place:

“I just went to vote at the Stanhope Gardens Leisure Centre and officials are telling people voting just 1 above the line (for the Senate) will not be counted; that they have changed the rules for this election. Scrutineers will not count it.”

This advice is at variance with the guidance on page 38 of the current Scrutineers Handbook available on line from the AEC website.

How is it possible for the AEC to change the rules after the voting has been in progress for a week and a half?

I believe the majors are attempting to steal the senate by gaining quotas by forcing preferences from the electors and secondly that some in the AEC might be facilitating the theft after the writ had already been issued.

This is not legal. At the least it is vote fraud and at worst it is criminal.

Vote only 1 above the line in the Senate as per page 38 of the Scrutineers Handbook 2022.

Authorised by Riccardo Bosi Independent Candidate for Greenway, Perfection Ave, Stanhope Gardens NSW 2768

2/ BREAKING: AEC CALL CENTER STAFF MEMBERS RECORDED PROVIDING FALSE AND MISLEADING INFORMATION TO VOTERS ABOUT INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tonWR38HXUA

from Geoff McGeorge

The Australian Electoral Commission needs your help!

Looking for some extra cash this weekend? – The Australian Electoral Commission needs your help!

But you have to be fully vaxxed and do not collapse on the job.

The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) is hiring people to work for the AEC this Saturday or the days after, particularly in regional Queensland. These are paid roles.

Where necessary, the AEC will cover any accommodation and travel costs – so if you’re up for a paid weekend getaway keep reading!
  
What’s involved?

The AEC is looking for people to work in the following paid temporary roles in polling places this Saturday:

  • Polling place Officer in Charge
  • Polling place Second in Charge
  • Declaration Voting Issuing Officer
  • Polling Assistants. 

A summary of the roles, and what’s involved, is available on the AEC website.

All AEC election roles in polling places are paid a package rate. Details on the pay, terms and conditions can be found in the Collective Determination.

Working in a polling place is an all-day effort – but rewarding! Staff will start at around 7am and finish no later than 11pm. 

Note: some roles require a police check.

COVID-19 safety

COVID-19 safety measures will be in place at polling places and other workplaces to protect AEC workers and voters. All temporary election workers will need to wear a face mask and be fully vaccinated. 

Interested?

Register your interest now. It only takes around 20 minutes.

Alternatively, you can email electionjobs@aec.gov.au with your details and the AEC will contact you and start the on-boarding process. 

Please feel free to forward this information to your family, friends, and networks.

Thank you.

AEC not yet proven where election writs have been advertised as required by Electoral Act

It seems the Australian Electoral Commissioner Tom Rogers has been unable to provide proof of where the election writ has been published as required under the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918.

Dale Holmes writes that the AEC has been unable to state which newspapers have published the writs, therefore a huge question mark hangs over the legitimacy of the federal election on Saturday.

https://t.me/DaleHolmes1985/1084

154  Writs for election of members of House of Representatives

             (1)  A writ for the election of a Member of the House of Representatives or for a general election for the House of Representatives shall be addressed to the Electoral Commissioner.

             (2)  Only 8 writs shall be issued for each general election, namely:

                     (a)  a writ that relates to the members to be elected from New South Wales;

                     (b)  a writ that relates to the members to be elected from Victoria;

                     (c)  a writ that relates to the members to be elected from Queensland;

                     (d)  a writ that relates to the members to be elected from South Australia;

                     (e)  a writ that relates to the members to be elected from Western Australia;

                      (f)  a writ that relates to the members to be elected from Tasmania;

                     (g)  a writ that relates to the members to be elected from the Australian Capital Territory; and

                     (h)  a writ that relates to the members to be elected from the Northern Territory.

             (3)  The 8 writs issued for a general election shall be issued on the same day.

             (4)  Where a writ for an election to be held in a Division, or each Division, in a State or Territory is received by the Electoral Commissioner under subsection (1), the Commissioner shall:

                     (a)  endorse on the writ the date of its receipt;

                     (b)  advertise receipt of, and particulars of, the writ:

                              (i)  in not less than 2 newspapers circulating generally in the State or Territory; or

                             (ii)  if there is only one newspaper circulating generally in the State or Territory—in that newspaper;

                     (c)  take such steps as the Commissioner considers appropriate to advise the Divisional Returning Officer or each Divisional Returning Officer, as the case requires, of the particulars of the writ, including the dates fixed by the writ; and

                     (d)  give such directions as the Commissioner considers appropriate to the Divisional Returning Officer or each Divisional Returning Officer, as the case requires, in relation to the holding of the election.

    (5)  Where a writ for an election to be held in a Division or Divisions is received by the Electoral Commissioner under subsection (1), the Commissioner may, where he or she considers it appropriate, advertise receipt of, and particulars of, the writ, in a newspaper or newspapers circulating in the Division or in some or all of the Divisions, as the case requires.

153  Writs for election of Senators

             (1)  A writ for the election of Senators shall be addressed to the Australian Electoral Officer for the State or Territory for which the election is to be held.

             (2)  Where a writ for an election of Senators is received by the Australian Electoral Officer for a State or Territory under subsection (1), the officer shall:

                     (a)  endorse on the writ the date of its receipt;

                     (b)  advertise receipt of, and particulars of, the writ:

                              (i)  in not less than 2 newspapers circulating generally in the State or Territory; or

                             (ii)  if there is only one newspaper circulating generally in the State or Territory—in that newspaper;

                     (c)  take such steps as the officer considers appropriate to advise each Divisional Returning Officer in the State or Territory of the dates fixed by the writ; and

                     (d)  give such directions as the officer considers appropriate to each Divisional Returning Officer in relation to the holding of the election.

The AEC has been contacted for comment with this request:

‘To Tom Rogers
Australian Electoral Commissioner
Dear Sir,
Could you please provide information relating to the publication of the writs for a general election as required under section 153 and 154 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918.

  • eight writs have to be published, could you please advise in what newspapers, location and date of publication.
    Thank you
    J O’Toole
    Editor
    Cairns News
    May 18, 2022′

Very revealing update on world situation

Readers can make up their own minds about the message in this video.

The programmed population can be de-programmed

Letter to the Editor

We are too busy discussing instead of ‘doing’.

How many of us were born with all our knowledge? None.

We have some info on how to break the spell, let’s do it. I’ve made headway with 3 members if my family.

What Bosi has said is of course most of these people can be deprogrammed. They can.

This article will seek to demonstrate how the spells cast over the last two years may be finally broken and the incantations reversed.

Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to CONTROL its SUBJECTS securely WITHOUT THE NEED OF ARMIES or POLICEMEN.

Bertrand Russell – The Impact of Science on Society (1951)

This article is for anyone who has found themselves frustrated as they tried to speak with family members, friends, co-workers, or complete strangers about the official covid-19 narrative and pandemic response, only to find any kind of rational discussion nearly impossible. This article is for those who have raised concerns over the totalitarian power grab by governments, only to find a significant portion of people “spellbound,” with their stories and identities “reframed” to fit the narrative.

This is especially the case if we consider how the latest “behavioural insights” from the fields of social psychology and behavioural science have been used across the Western world over the last two years. Under the auspices of battling a virus with a 99% survival rate, the population has been bombarded with an aggressive combination of “Neuro Linguistic Programming,” “Nudging,” and public messaging “incantations.” As we will continue to demonstrate, all of these techniques—in one way or another—have been designed to target what social engineers call “automatic motivations” i.e. our unconscious (or preconscious) minds.

As we discussed in the previous article, many have observed how a significant portion of the population appears to be under a “spell.” These spells have turned attempts at honest and rational discussion among friends, family, and co-workers into futile exercises. None of this is by chance. Public messaging and senior government officials have been using the latest insights into “Neuro Linguistic Programming” (NLP)—first laid out in a book called The Structure of Magic by John Grinder and Richard Bandler—along with “Nudge Theory” to actively change people’s thoughts and behaviour without their conscious knowledge or consent. As we will show, this new age of trance warfare and mass hypnosis has been spearheaded across the Five Eyes, starting in 2010 with the establishment of the Behavioural Insights Team by top echelons of the UK political elite.

from Gaber2

Brisbane

Stop using Google, Falsebook or Windows

If you are still using ‘BIG TECH’ platforms like Google, Facebook/Meta, or software like Apple MacOS, Microsoft Windows, the time is now to GET OUT.

Stop using software made by people who hate you.
Stop giving them your data.
They are making an all-out power grab while trying to impose tyranny, and they need your DATA to do it.

These sometimes unpopular messages need to be said. Our channel has been promoting technology alternatives for months.

Why is our messaging sometimes unpopular? Because it leads people to an outcome that requires time, and EFFORT to LEARN NEW THINGS, when we are already so pressured in the first place. It’s much easier to rationalize away the urgency, and “DO NOTHING.”

Don’t wait until it’s too late. In a quickly changing world, your data and personal information is precious. Our Freedom is NON-NEGOTIABLE.

We told you here first If you have an Amazon Alexa, it’s listening to you all the time, and the things you say are being sold to at least 41 “partners.”

Heck, if they’re selling the text of everything you’re talking, 41 times, why not 100. Why not 1,000? They probably are …

https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/28/23047026/amazon-alexa-voice-data-targeted-ads-research-report

If you have an old OS you might want to check it out FrogFind.com. It’s a search enginey tool that lets old operating systems use the web.

Granted the formatting is kind of funky but you usually find the content.

Oh yeah, paywalls also seem to disappear. Just sayin.

On this Telegram channel, we teach you how to eliminate ‘big tech’ spying and abuses from your life with Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) and the Linux Operating System.

Unix-like Operating Systems are the future, Linux is Digital Freedom!

Follow Jeff.pro on Social Media:
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https://t.me/jeffrey_peterson/5314

AEC will not investigate wide spread voter fraud until after the results are decided

Letter to the Editor

In 1992, as a bright and shiny new investigator, I was allocated a file about multiple voting in a single Federal electorate in South West Sydney – 1 of of 150 electorates nationwide. This involved the same person allegedly voting at a number of booths in the same electorate on the same day. I interviewed a large number of people who had their names crossed off at a number of booths. What I found was that everyone denied multiple voting. The criteria for voting, as now, was stating their name, address and date of birth. Not difficult information to acquire. Some of them I assessed as genuine. Most blamed their cousins etc which was able to be legally proved. All of the elector details could be readily accessed via the electoral roll. Nothing was done. In a digital age, multiply that tenfold. The electoral system here is utterly corrupted, not least by the fact that investigations are not allocated until after the results are decided.

from Romitas

Sydney

Voter fraud will decide the outcome of the May 21 election

IS AUSTRALIA’S VOTING SYSTEM HONEST?

DO VOTE FRAUDS OCCUR?

GetUp has $30m in the bank and is the largest, organised voting manipulator in Australia

by Lex Stewart, former Chairman of Australians for Honest Elections

To the two questions above in the heading, our Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) would say “Yes and No”.

But my answers are the opposite – based on having scrutineered at every federal and state election since 1985, and having done paid work for six MPs (3 Canberra, 3 NSW) and voluntary work in various political Parties.

The AEC Electoral Commissioner is retired Army officer Tom Rogers, who worked for defence contractor Raytheon after leaving the military.

I worked as staffer for an MP who lost his seat in 1993 by 164 votes, and then we discovered 300 false enrolments on the Electoral Roll, plus other issues, including that Jehovah’s Witnesses did not receive their customary letter after the election because they did not vote.

A few years ago I arranged some meetings in Australia for UK Election Commissioner Richard Mawrey QC, who had jailed people from both sides of politics for Vote Frauds. 

Very few people have ever been prosecuted or even challenged in Australia, and our Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) operates a faulty system with numerous loopholes, and scant attention from Ministers, other MPs and journalists.

Richard Mawrey was aghast at what he saw of Australia’s voting systems and Electoral Agencies.  He said, “Due to the incentives, if vote fraud CAN occur due to loopholes, then it WILL occur.  And especially Australia’s postal vote system is a recipe for fraud.

There is substantial incentive for Vote Frauds because the rewards are so huge – power, prestige, getting control of expenditure of taxpayers’ moneys, appointing your mates to various Boards and diplomatic postings etc.

To improve elections:-

  • vote in the Senate by numbering every square rather than one to six
  • do scrutineering – this means getting an AEC Form signed by a candidate. Do it after 6pm on election night, and if needed during subsequent days of re-counting.
  • Because over the years very few MPs have taken an interest in Vote Frauds (except Fred Nile and Pauline Hanson) then after this election heckle your MP that you want Voter ID introduced, so as to prevent Multiple Voting (AEC data show more than 36,686 in the 2016 election) and to prevent Voter Impersonation.

Bearing in mind that it is often difficult to gather enough evidence to prove Vote Frauds (granted that the AEC, Aust Federal Police are asleep), I could give numerous examples of Vote Frauds, but it would make this article too long.

A convenient one-page list of 17 cases of Vote Frauds was page two of a brief Submission by eminent Sydney lawyer James Bell to the parliamentary committee reviewing the 2019 federal election.  When his Submission appeared on the parliamentary website as number 53, the list on page two had been “redacted” i.e. blacked out!  In order to overcome this censorship, James’s list is presented below.

Some cases of Vote Frauds have been exposed by rare court cases or very rare government inquiries, e.g. the Shepherdson Inquiry, which led to the jailing of Karen Ehrman who said she was only a small bit player among many others involved in the ALP’s schemes.

ccc.qld.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-01/The-Shepherdson-Inquiry-Report-2001.pdf

The AEC has not operated the Electoral Roll with integrity, as shown by the five reports done by the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO).

The Howard government asked the ANAO to do an audit of the AEC, and the report of 18 April 2002 titled “The Integrity of the Electoral Roll” raised serious concerns.

The ANAO report of 6 April 2004:- “progress by the AEC on implementing the recommendations has been slow…

Their report of 6 April 2010 wrote, “The most significant long-term problem for the AEC remains the poor state of the Electoral Roll”.

Their 8 May 2014 report stated, “… the state of the Roll was the most significant long-term issue … and the AEC’s approaches … have become less effective , as well as … more costly

Their fifth report on 4 November 2015 had some alarming things to say in its Overall Conclusion:-   “The actions taken by the AEC … have not adequately and effectively addressed the matters that led to the ANAO’s recommendations being made … The findings of this audit .. are in contrast to the advice provided by the AEC to the 2014 parliamentary committee that all recommendations … had been completed

IN OTHER WORDS THE AEC TOLD LIES TO THE PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE!

And no Minister or MP or journalist bothered or cared to expose this AEC juggernaut, which is in practical effect unaccountable and renegade, operating a system full of loopholes.

Here is the list of cases of Vote Frauds in James Bell’s Submission to the parliamentary committee.  It includes cases where Vote Frauds were PROVEN to have occurred, but James (and I) are not claiming that the frauds were necessarily of sufficient magnitude to have affected the outcome.

  1.   Joan Chambers lost Ballarat South in 1988 by 104 votes, but many more than 104 fraudulent votes were subsequently found by the Electoral Authority
  2.   Bribie Island 1989 -Bob Bottom found underwater enrolments along a beachside street
  3.   Alasdair Webster MP lost Macquarie in 1993 by 164 votes
  4.   1993 Frank Tanti lost Mundingburra by 16 votes but won the court-ordered by-election
  5.   MP Larry Anthony lost Richmond in 2004 by 301 votes
  6.   Multiple voting in 2005 Werriwa by-election
  7.   Wollondilly in the March 2007 NSW State election – several Statutory Declarations described a busload going to vote at several polling booths, but the Electoral Commissioner refused to investigate
  8.   200 House of Reps ballot papers vanished in Epping West booth in Bennelong in 2007
  9.   BK photographed a suspicious man who voted three times in Coogee ~2007
  10.  VicB found 500 false enrolments in Kingsford Smith early 2013
  11.  Circa year 2000 BK, VB, PB found many false enrolments in Parramatta, perhaps 5,000
  12.  S Mirabella lost Indi in 2013 by 500 (1,000 ballots appeared)
  13.  1,370 ballot papers vanished in the WA senate election
  14.  MP Charles Casuscelli narrowly lost Strathfield in 2015 NSW
  15.  MP Chris Holstein narrowly lost Gosford in 2015 NSW
  16.  MP Louise Markus narrowly lost Macquarie in 2016, with Lex Stewart detecting a new method of Vote Fraud, plus observing an old method being used.
  17. Election 2016: Labor’s Cathy O’Toole wins Herbert by 37 votes …

Editor: It should be noted that this scribe has been writing about electoral fraud since 1987 when the Unions were able to get enough false names onto the roll to change the election result.. The AEC electronic roll was in its infancy and it had the original RAMNS system which was sub-standard at least, allowing many thousands of false names to stay on the roll unchecked. Indeed a staffer for former Senator Len Harris in 2004 was told by the then Electoral Commissioner that there were more than 400,000 names on the roll whose identity had not been checked.

In 1987 the incumbent Australian Labor Party, led by Prime Minister Bob Hawke, defeated the opposition Liberal Party of Australia, led by John Howard and the National Party of Australia led by Ian Sinclair. This was the first, and to date only, time the Labor Party won a third consecutive election.

Postal voting integrity is the biggest worry of the 2022 election.

Tom Rogers biography:

https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/tom-rogers

No point in voting

Letter to the Editor

What’s the point in VOTING, or even HAVING a Federal Government, if corrupt left-wing extremist activist journalists, lawyers, judges, and Labor/Greens federal and state politicians are the ones running and controlling our Country, and making all the decisions?Djokovic, and his fellow Serbians, should all be kicked out of OUR Country if they refuse to follow OUR rules!We are now living in an evil left-wing extremist (Communist, Nazi, Marxist) Dictatorship,….just look at some of the NAMES of the people who are running OUR country and dictating to us, and the names of some of the journalists reporting on it.

Example, Politicians:-Palaszczuk, Berejiklian, Frydenberg, Barilaro, Falinski, Hazzard, Albaneze, Wong, Plibersek, Keneally, Aly, Georganas, Khalil, Vamvakinou, Crakanthorp, Houssos, Mihailuk, Zangari, Zppia, Sharma, Buchholz, Liu, Sukkar, Singh, Fang, Gulaptis, Perrottet, Petinos, Zimmerman, Fierravanti,….and the list goes on!

Example, Reporters/Journalists:-Stefanovic, Koch, Albrechtsen, Kostakidis, Alberici, Waleed Aly, Zoe Zaczek, Bryant Hevesi, Youssef, Gottliebsen, Zempilas, Viswalingam, Loewenstein, Kalimniou, Tso, Trioli, Van Onselen, Azzopardi, Fernandez, Ghidella, Ibrahim, Shepher, Visontay,….and the list goes on!No wonder Australia is INTERCOURSED!I believe that a person should have to be a ‘second-generation’ Australian before they are allowed to VOTE, and a ‘third-generation’ Australian before they are allowed to enter politics at ANY level, local, state, or federal! (And no lawyers)

Rusty Marsh,

Bathurst NSW 2795.

Don’t forget the MSM. Ed

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