Steiger vortex rainmaking guns were put into action at Charleville, Queensland in 1902, in efforts to break the Great Federation Drought.
Long-time geoengineering researcher Jim Lee explains the quite complicated truth behind the feverish debate around “chemtrails” vs “contrails” to medical journalist Del Bigtree.

By TONY MOBILIFONITIS
“CHEMTRAIL” hysteria is peaking around Australia, if postings on social media are any indication, and if these postings are to be believed, the entire population of Australia and the world, is being deliberately sprayed by poison on a daily basis, or at least on those days when the white streaks of jet contrails are visible across the skies.

Jim Lee, an American who debated geoengineers on their own forums between 2009 and 2013, published his research highlighting the issue on several websites, his main one being Climate Viewer News. Lee then encountered a chorus of people asking him about “chemtrails”, which he subsequently investigated.

“Today, the most common answer I get is ‘a contrail is a short line that disappears quickly and a chemtrail does not disappear and blocks out the sun’. This is an oversimplification of the terms,” he told Graham Hood and John Larter on Club Grubbery.

Lee also explained on Del Bigtree’s The Highwire (video above) that there was an element of “slave speak” involved in the semantics around the topic. “Slave speak is a language that maintains a master-slave relationship. It is the use of high-level descriptors, that are highly argumentative, have different means to different individuals based on their individual perceptions.”

So in simplistic terms “chemtrail” means chemical trail and “contrail” means water vapour. But in fact all cloud formation requires particulate matter and this is often provided by the burnt jet fuel in certain atmospheric conditions that can be identified by military in order for jets to avoid making contrails.

He says the most common jet fuel JP8, produces soot particles that act as cloud condensation nuclei and also contain all of the metals seen on the periodic table. Once this artificial cloud fans out, it becomes a cirrus cloud.

Lee says the core issue around “the great chemtrail conspiracy” is intent, and with military weather modification, the intent is clear. “But back to commercial aviation, the 130 to 150,000 thousand flights per day, the 15 million barrels of jet fuel per day, just in the United States that are burnt, I wanted to find that smoking gun, that memo, that intent, and it came to me in 2010.”

That was when Lee discovered a statement from Germany’s space agency, that was discussing the idea of using and regulating contrails as a method of combatting alleged climate change. The idea was to encourage “shielding” of the earth from sun during the day and avoiding the creation of contrails at night using a computer software system called the Aviation Environmental Design Tool (AEDT).

Lee noted that the Biden administration had just released a report on solar radiation modification. Its three areas of focus were stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI), marine cloud brightening (MCB) and cirrus cloud thinning (CCT).

“So what you have here is a grand conspiracy between the scientists, who are trying to, as they would put it, mitigate global warming impacts from aviation. But in reality what they’re doing is turning what’s been 60 to 80 years of pollution into an active geoengineering program.”

Lee is adamant that claims about Nexrad and Doppler weather radars being mini-HAARP installations are plain wrong, as are suggestions that airline pilots get secret orders from “Chemtrail Central” to switch on sprays over certain areas.

“We have to recognise that a lot of the arguments made on both sides for and against are ridiculous on their face,” he told Hood. He gave as an example the claim by Dane Wigington that WW2 B-17 bombers were involved in weather modification, when in fact the contrails they made were formed aerodynamically by air on wing tips and propeller action in moist air.

“The guys that got shot out of the sky probably didn’t want big freaking great white lines pointing at the plane they were in, because if I was sitting in the gunner’s seat the last thing I would want is a big line behind me going ‘here I am’, shoot me, which is why today we have contrail suppression systems on all stealth bombers (and other military aircraft).”

This means that few, if any military aircraft are sighted by eye from the ground leaving only commercial passenger aircraft making the visible contrails. And these, says Lee, are not merely ice crystals, but also soot particles that when superheated and pressurized create a graphene coating. Sulphur dioxide is another byproduct.

Lee went on to explain how chaff released from military aircraft had been claimed as being sprayed from commercial jets. “You Graham Hood, you’re spraying plastic fibres and metal on everybody. That’s how dumb it’s gotten,” he said.

But Lee did outline various weather modification methods used by the US military, including the notorious Operation Popeye in Vietnam, and cloud creation technology using carbon black dust designed to block out satellite observations and moonlight.

One website he ran was weathermodificationhistory.com, one of the most extensive resources on the history of weather modification starting around 1850. It has more than 850 newspaper articles alone going back to the 1880s.

The technology from about 1850 to 1945 was called pluvaculture, and involved things such as cones that would transmit explosive sound waves into clouds. These Steiger vortex cones can be seen today in Charleville, western Queensland. Cloud and hurricane seeding began in 1947 with silver iodide being dropped from planes.

Lee, explained that modern weather modification technology was now way beyond silver iodide cloud seeding, with companies such as Australian Rain Technology creating negatively charged ions in the atmosphere to China employing thousands of ground-based devices in the Tibetan desert.
The biggest weather modification project is in the United Arab Emirates.

It’s also interesting to know that the first issue with contrail pollution occurred over Palm Springs, California in the late 1950s, when the contrail concentration noticeably cut sunlight hours at the popular resort.

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34 thought on “Jim Lee explains that the ‘chemtrails conspiracy’ not quite what you’ve been led to believe”
  1. OPERATION SEA SPRAY – a secret bio warfare experiment conducted over San Francisco much denied and reluctantly admitted in the end.

    It took place when we were being “protected” from those Cold War dirty commie rats by the best democracy Big Money could buy.

    Now with the commies gone, Big Money gets even bigger as it protects us from its own bio Cold and Flu Wars … it’s a game known as Corporate Fascism and is played against us by the global, financial movers and shakers.

    You don’t need to look far to see it as you are obliged to play whether you know about it or whether you like it or not. One thing is known… We lose and the Money Merchants win!

    The game of FLEECING and SCREWING the Faithful in the Temple of human hope is a time treasured tradition by the Money Merchants. Recently it came in various shapes and colours… commie red, fascist brown or black, environmental green, and now in neo-feudal pinks.

    Any colour you like as long as you get conned into believing you’re following your own rainbow! 🙂

  2. What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)

  3. Cloud seeding serves much simpler purposes (the local stimulation of rainfall) than the alleged geoengineering objectives of e.g. “solar radiation management”. See the late Edward Teller’s ruminations: “The Planet Needs a Sunscreen” https://halva.proboards.com/post/2483

  4. I won’t give credence to anyone who says it’s different to what I see right there in the sky in front of my face. All the different patterns created as I look. Amazing stuff. Always in synch with weather events.
    But it’s the strangest, most anomalous, unexplained, opaque thing ever.

  5. Beverly agree!

    They were spraying us as the cyclone hit December last year in Cairns. Even as we were getting MASSIVE loads of rain 🌧 “cloud seeding” was happening! It’s bs, it’s a lie to cover up mass damage… flood out the farms, and dry out the farms…. No reason whatsoever so spray the skies while cyclone week is here hitting people hard, that’s just ludicrous unless your a freemason working for a freemason and want to cause maximum damage.

  6. I think you are very well aware that in Australia cloud seeding has been going on for a long time, and was increased especially after 1945.
    In the sixties sound and sub-sonic sound control has been tried, by various independent organisations, me included and later this was taken over by the CSIRO, in a much more elaborate way with government funds and control – limits. “I do know very well being involved for a short time in the late Seventies with the CSIRO. Anyway that is another story not for discussion now.
    In China similar, cloud seeding always has been done. But “Chemtrails” & Cloud spraying started to get more intense after approximately 2000. Resulting in various trials, that was not common before 2000.

  7. hancnx9 Cairns News will certainly publish any evidence of chemical spraying at 10,000 to 12,000 feet with chemicals or metals like aluminum, barium, shown exiting nozzles. But what you describe sounds more like cloud seeding.

  8. The late Michael Murphy’s third film “An UNconventional Grey” adds some nuancikose to the assertion that “climate change is a hoax” https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/unconventional-grey-unfinished-third-geoengineering-film-of-michael-j-murphy/ And Jim Lee certainly muddies the waters. Murphy’s previous two films “What in the World are they Spraying” and “Why in the World are they Spraying” are available on the internet and provide useful background.

  9. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/geoengineering-test-quietly-launches-salt-crystals-into-atmosphere/

    “CLIMATEWIRE | The nation’s first outdoor test to limit global warming by increasing cloud cover launched Tuesday from the deck of a decommissioned aircraft carrier in the San Francisco Bay.

    The experiment, which organizers didn’t widely announce to avoid public backlash, marks the acceleration of a contentious field of research known as solar radiation modification. The concept involves shooting substances such as aerosols into the sky to reflect sunlight away from the Earth.?”

    So there’s no elephants in the sky.

    Our eyes are deceiving us and the injections are safe and effective, right?

    Samples collected from chem spraying don’t exist, they’re figments of the collectors’ and researchers’ scientific imagination.

    Operation Sea-Spray over San Francisco never secretly was not real until it was finally admitted. Everything is being done openly and with the knowledge and approval of the public, including pigs flying around with their lipstick on.

    BTW the gaslight isn’t dimming and flickering and there are no attic noises and you should have yourselves officially declared insane. lol

  10. Am I seriously suggesting that mycoplasmas and fungi are stored on an aircraft and then sprayed out at 30,000ft into -40 deg temperatures?

    – No, not necessarily under those conditions.
    A precocious assumption on your behalf.

    Carnicom Institute remains a primary Morgellons investigator.

    Cliff Carnicom – Morgellons Exposed:

    Is aerosol spraying only about weaponizing the weather?
    What do the self-replicating fibres found in Morgellons patients signify?
    Why are engineered materials being found in airborne environmental samples?
    All this suggests a planetary engineering program that is affecting and targeting all living things…..

    GeoEngineering and BioEngineering : The Unmistakable Link

    From Chemtrails to Pseudo-Life: The Dark Agenda of Synthetic Biology

    https://brutalproof.net/2018/02/morgellons-disease-morgellons-disease-self-replicating-alien-fibers-sprayed-with-chemtrails-13/

  11. $60 MILLION FRAUD! Disney Ordered “Chemtrails” Painted into Skies of Old Movies as Deception
    https://stateofthenation.co/?p=211416

    Just as Orwell predicted in his masterpiece ‘1984’:
    “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”

  12. Remember the Victorian droughts about 15 years ago, so they built the Desalination plant and doubled our water rates to this day; that’s a lot of money from all them homes. Now the dames are over flowing and there is not much use for the Desalination plant.

  13. I have followed Dane Wigington of GeoengineeringWatch.org for years now and get his newsletters and latest videos every week. He is far more credible than Jim Lee is.
    Del Bigtree had Dane Wigington late last year on his show:

    Del Bigtree and Dane Wigington Expose Climate Engineering (HIGHWIRE) – November 2023
    https://rumble.com/v3gjtuc-del-bigtree-and-dane-wigington-expose-climate-engineering-highwire.html

    Contrast that 37 minute video to the Del Bigtree – Jim Lee 1:22:54 hour long video.
    I hope that Del Bigtree will soon invite Dane Wigington and Jim Lee on his show for a debate on chemtrails/contrails. That would be very interesting to watch.

    JIM LEE CLIMATE VIEWER DEBUNKS DANE WIGINGTON
    h ttps://www.bitchute.com/video/TPEIXMkrBWtk/

    A very smug Jim Lee “debunking” Dane Wigington.

  14. Editor, cairnsnews – May 6, 2024 at 3:44 pm

    “Likewise, are you seriously suggesting that mycoplasmas and fungi are stored on an aircraft and then sprayed out at 30,000ft into -40 deg temperatures?”

    Editor, please note:
    They are NOT chemtrailing at 30,000 ft and minus 40 degrees Celcius.
    Chemtrails are applied anywhere between 10,000 and 12,000 feet and the chemicals or metals like aluminum, barium, etc., are seen immediately exiting the nozzles and can be seen turned on and off.

    Editor, cairnsnews – May 6, 2024 at 2:21 pm

    “And suggesting Lee is a shill for Bill Gates is ludicrous because Lee, if you listen to what he says, is actually opposed to the Gates sponsored geoengineering plans.”

    Then why is Jim Lee obfuscating the issue of chemtrails? Ridiculing / debunking Dane Wigington, calling Wigington’s documentary ‘The Dimming’, ‘The Dumbing’.

  15. Lees assessment is fair in someways but to dismiss these huge trails that cover the sky as just dirty contrails and are formed due to certain atmospheric conditions? Is I feel a bit blind. No one saw planes cross cross the sky a few years ago in Australia with long curly trails that turned the sky into a haze. Observers who post on the various weather watch sites in Australia, often observe planes switching it off. Most of the planes are commercial. Even if it’s just pollution? From the engines? It’s disgusting how the skies are so polluted and the nice blue skies blanketed. It needs deeper investigations.

  16. Plenty of video and imaging down my way of these friggin chemtrails and cloud seeding. Seen cloud seeding on the radar. Seen the chemtrails hang around get wider and wider joining up with clouds. Chems give the whole sky a misty eerie look, things I have never seen before. The NZ jet that flies across Victoria, always drops a chemtrail, watched it many times. This year I took photos of leaf damage of white flecks on many of my plants I have never seen before, and no not fungus or disease as they wouldn’t be on such a variety, and yes, I am a gardener.

  17. billabonglandoz Please watch the video because those points are answered.
    Phil: I would suggest Lee has good reason to call the morgellons in chemtrails claim nonsense, probably because evidence is lacking. His website links to a morgellons survey. Likewise, are you seriously suggesting that mycoplasmas and fungi are stored on an aircraft and then sprayed out at 30,000ft into -40 deg temperatures? How would this be achieved? This is where the “chemtrails” subject careers into the absurd.

  18. When you see ‘contrails’ formed in a grid pattern (north/south plus east/west), or in circular loops, or even crazy higgledy-piggledy patterns – you don’t have to be a genius to think that either the pilot hasn’t a clue where he is going, or is out of control! Or maybe he is just bored and having fun, or perhaps he is trying to wake people up and showing everyone that his particular trail is NOT normal?

  19. Jim Lee doesn’t even mention the mycoplasmas and fungi in the sprayed aerosols. In fact he called Morgellons ”nonsense”. Also no mention of the fire accelerants dispersed in sprays. Experienced fire fighters are well aware of the intense ferocity exhibited by bushfires never seen before, notably in Australia, California and Canada.
    We damn well know aerosol CHEMTRAILS are part of the depopulation agenda!

  20. I have been capturing and viewing under microscope what is being sprayed for some time now, but sharing the ignorance and denial is deafening.
    https://ibb.co/GVS4gJ6
    https://ibb.co/hyZ9FXp
    https://ibb.co/z2XMRwY
    https://ibb.co/MSDxQy7
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    https://ibb.co/mcD5cPn
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    https://ibb.co/MCfprCh
    https://ibb.co/fCBHty0

    Here is the UK whistle blower, and not some restricted edited posting on YT.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/m1CDExg2Sy6h/

  21. Can I suggest some of our readers actually listen to the full interview between Bigtree and Lee. People here are jumping to conclusion that Lee is outright denying the existence of chemicals in contrails. He’s not. What he does do is give well-researched insight devoid of the hysteria, suppositions and misinformation that plague this debate. And suggesting Lee is a shill for Bill Gates is ludicrous because Lee, if you listen to what he says, is actually opposed to the Gates sponsored geoengineering plans.

  22. IS JIM LEE SHILLING FOR BILL GATES?
    Bill Gates exposed for funding research, promotion of spraying geo-engineered ‘chemtrails’ across globe – Natural News, February 8, 2012
    https://www.naturalnews.com/034906_Bill_Gates_geo-engineering_chemtrails.html

    (Natural News) The latest scam to enter the debate about so-called “global warming” involves spending billions of dollars to spray the atmosphere with tiny particulate matter for the alleged purpose of reflecting sunlight back into space, and thus cooling the planet.
    But research into this controversial practice of “CHEMTRAILING,” which has actually already been going on for quite some time now, IS LARGELY FUNDED DIRECTLY BY MR. VACCINE HIMSELF, THE INFAMOUS BILL GATES.

    Contrails vs Chemtrails – A video comparison
    h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFL4ogRm3yc

    There’s a difference between a contrail, condensation trail, and a chemtrail, chemical trail.  To understand the difference, we need to understand how contrails are formed.

    Contrails can only physically start [forming] at 28,000 feet = 8,5km, which is around minus 40 degrees Celsius.  A contrail is water vapour.  In fact, it’s trillions and trillions of ice crystals
    One never sees the vapor trail exiting DIRECTLY out of the engines. How far behind the plane the vapor trails form all depends on the local dew point and the temperature of exiting exhaust.

    On the other hand, chemtrails are applied anywhere between 10,000 = 3km and 12,000 feet = 3,6km and the chemicals or metals like aluminum, barium, etc., are seen immediately exiting the nozzles.

    Tennessee legislature passes ban on chemtrails, weather modification
    Mexico bans chemtrails and geoengineering after American startup firm tried to block out sun with chemicals in Baja California Sur.
    Why Does Globalist Bill Gates Want To Block Out The Sun
    h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ThiNP2H5Ag

    What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length)
    h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA

  23. Ah, typical of Graham Hood. He has been adamantly against the idea and concept of chemtrails for a long time. I went to one of his talks when he was on tour around Aus and he poo poo’d the idea basically saying it was poppy cock. So Hoodie, the so-called truther has found someone who can back up his deceitful position. Well done mate, but I can tell you that no one is going to believe this tripe and as seen here in the comment section. Why is this a new phenomenon?
    We have not had chemtrails behind plains for eons, but all of a sudden there are grid patterns in the sky that go on for many hours. I’ve been on this planet for 67 years and have no memory of this ever occurring in the past.

    I think people need to stop listening to the likes of Hood and so many others in the lying truther movement. They have lied all these last 4 years promising white hat intervention which is also a load of horse manure. Believing anything these people say is utter foolishness. Time to wake up people!

  24. I can only speak for Queensland and I am 75. Chemtrails never existed as a kid. Recently what washes out as rail was analysed by Qld Government Labs and found 25 elements including aluminium, barium strontium,silver. Following the publishing that the labs were forbidden from doing such tests.

  25. I suppose he’ll really needs to convince the many people – speaking of Australia here – who have photographed & videod numerous criss-cross patterns in the sky in certain areas. Did we observe these even 10 yrs ago , I think not

    He certainly provides interesting information however my perception is he dumbs people down.

    There have been numerous replays of globalist movers & shakers who speak about dimming the sun to prevent climate change.

    Problems here – the Australian so called truther movement- is factionalised. Many wouldn’t buy into the Club he was interviewed by. I sure don’t.

    People have captured imagery of these things then watched bizzare cloud formations develop . How long have jets been flying high leaving contrails that can go for miles , decades.

    I’m not convinced.

  26. Why didn’t we see these “chemtrails” years ago, they have appeared over the last decade or two.

  27. What about that dust all over my car that sparkles when you wipe it on your finger and hold it in the sunlight?.

  28. Whatever the guy’s argument is about concerning contrails versus chemtrails… cloud seeding is not a “conspiracy theory” but a damning reality that has and is continuing to cause horrendous flooding on Australia’s east coast while depriving WA’s south-west of rain causing them to endure savage drought conditions.

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