Unmanned, high-tech speed cameras which monitor speed, direction, location, vehicle occupants and date send real-time data to police and MRD headquarters’ data bank
The Queensland Police Union has hit out at large numbers of unmanned speed cameras being deployed across the state as having nothing to do with road safety but all about revenue raising.
Ian Leavers says speed
cameras are
“all about revenue raising”
Love him or hate him, police union president Ian Leavers has been vocal about other issues that Labor has handled badly, one being runaway juvenile crime which has adversely affected every Queensland town and city.
After weeks of media speculation and attacks, Premier Palazczuk deserted the sinking ship on Friday and her prodigy, Dr Steven Miles, has been sworn in as the new Premier. Various regional media remarked the ALP was rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Shane Knuth (centre) flanked by leader
Robbie Katter (left) and Member for Hinchinbrook Nick Dametto castigate speed cameras as “revenue raisers.”
Leavers joined in with Katters Australian Party Member for Hill Shane Knuth who had 360 Tablelands motorists invade his office after they received hundreds of infringement notices over a three week period in the mail resulting from an unmanned, high-tech roadside camera on the outskirts of Malanda.
Knuth fronted the hapless Main Roads Minister in Parliament asking for camera speed calibration records of the device before it was put in place and during operation near a change of speed sign, and as Knuth was quick to point out, along a stretch of road that had no serious accident record.
MRD Minister Mark Bailey, already under a dark cloud for a $2.4 billion cost overrun on new trains being built at Maryborough, has yet been unable to produce any records from an analyst who is certified by the Chief Metrologist as required by the National Measurement Act.
Commenting on Mr Knuth’s Facebook post, Mr Leavers said he was recently travelling through Barcaldine in a 60 kph zone and spotted an unmanned camera.
“Please don’t tell me 6 kph over is about road safety,” Mr Leavers commented.
“The unmanned cameras are about revenue raising and not road safety.”
Cairns News is wondering if Mr Leavers copped a fine in the mail too?
Leavers said the electronic advisory speed monitors erected by councils which record vehicle speed on approaching their position and display its actual speed, were effective and “modified driving behaviour by education and awareness.”
Minister Bailey told Mr Knuth he would like to have a meeting with him after parliament finished for the day but the Minister was a ‘no-show.’
“He didn’t turn up at for the arranged meeting,” Mr Knuth said.
The tenacious Member for Hill wants changes to the process where in the future no driver gets multiple fines in the mail from the same device up to a month later.
Some motorists had been fined up to eight times and got their notices all at once.
Motorists complained the cameras were faulty as they were not speeding at the material time. Those who made complaints through Mr Knuth’s office had their fines refunded through the mail, without any explanation.
A spokeswoman for Mr Knuth said she understood if testing of the cameras proved they were working properly the refunded motorists would have to again pay the fines.
Refunding fines is yet another case of The Main Roads incompetence and a prime example of double-dealing by Queensland Labor. Is it any wonder Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk could no longer cop the heat in the kitchen.
Mr Bailey said TMR operated 10 transportable speed cameras in regional Queensland which had replaced uniformed officers who would normally undertake speed enforcement duties.
The exodus of several thousand police officers from the Queensland service has critically hampered its operations. Many seasoned senior officers and those of lesser ranks were sacked by Premier Palaszczuk for refusing the deadly Covid jab.
Others have resigned because of medical issues, vaccination injuries or depleted the ranks by natural attrition. Readers have asked if the police union stood up for these sacked officers in deference to the 196 senior officers who allegedly were exempted from the jab and held their positions?
From CN Atherton correspondent
That’s nothing new. We’ve always known is revenue raiser. Look how much they slog you when “supposedly” speeding. Don’t think cameras are even accurate.
Corporations have to generate income so they can pay dividends and Christmas Bonuses to their Shareholders. It should come as no surprise that Queensland Police have revenue targets to meet these needs. Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street own the listed shares in most of these “Corporations”. Until our systems of government and public services are fixed, nothing will change!
Police now are NOT Police, they are Political Party Mercenaries
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Let’s be crystal clear here: ANY speed/km etc over 0 is speeding. If I start walking, that is speeding. If I ride a bicycle, that is also speeding. And why? Because you are going somewhere other than where you originally stood. So if the “government” tells you that you can “speed” up to 60km in a designated zone – does that mean it is IMPOSSIBLE to kill another being? NO! Because ANY speed over 0 can and will kill. Leavers is worried that the cops won’t have a job soon – him along with them. The fact is he actually stating the truth that the cameras are revenue raising only – well, Leavers, it’s ALWAYS been about revenue raising! And those cameras, radar, etc do NOT comply with the National Measurement Standard in 1960. AT ALL!!!
Ha ha this lot of GESTAPO seem to think this is a revaluation, telling us something we have known all along. Similar to the uniformed cowards we have here on Vic. Whinging about pay… lol maybe if they treated the public that pay their wages with more respect and “justice” ( a lost value) and honest common sense they might just earn a wage increase. At present as far as I am concerned the should get a DECREASE not an increase…
speed doesn’t kill and never has…it’s the sudden stop that causes the damage. OK.
proof that i have experienced the sudden stop, and lived, is last friday, on my bicycle, when a woman drove into me, she turning left from my right knocking me into her car’s path and proceeded to run over my arm…..she stopped…i screamed..and
i told her to f..k offfffff then did the dog jog around the corner to inspect my wounds.
do yaz think that story will save me from getting nicked for 5 k’s over..???
my god, “penalty, points” to fascism big time.
o dear my poor great brown land is full of s..it.
good luck..xxxx
IT,S ALWAY,S BEEN A GIVEN . The motorist has alway,s been a grubberment milch cow . With armed thug strongarm extortionists. Stand and deliver.
Fact is, once they register a debt to State Revenue you can whistle dixie whether you’ve contracted or not with them.
Commenter Pat from Vic
Sure you can have an absentee hearing and they will send you a bill for double. Or you can appear and they will make you wait all day then charge you double. This is like the famous CCP court with 99% conviction rate.
From the National measurements act 1960
18GA Measuring instruments used for trade to be verified
Offence requiring fault element
(1) A person commits an offence if:
(a) the person uses a measuring instrument for trade; and .
(b) the measuring instrument is not verified.
Penalty: 100 penalty units.
Strict liability offence
(2) A person commits an offence if:
(a) the person uses a measuring instrument for trade; and
(b) the measuring instrument is not verified.
Penalty: 20 penalty units.
(3) Subsection (2) is an offence of strict liability.
None of the measurement devices used by any Police force in the country, be they speed or alcohol, are verified as required by the National Measurements Act 1960.
This is because we are a signatory to an international treaty with the OILM, which requires that if a measuring instrument is verified in one of the signatory countries, it is automatically verified in the other signatory countries.
This means that measuring instruments need to comply to stringent requirements regarding accuracy, and reliability and repeatability of readings.
The vagaries of speed measurement devices are well known, and consequently do not meat the requirements to be verified under the requirements of the OILM.
If the Police were to have their alcohol measurement devices verified, would set a precedent for the verification of the speed measurement devices, which can’t be done.
The Victorian Police out of Dawson St West Brunswick were at one stage back before about 2010 the Verification Agent for breathalysers!!!!
Any measurement taken by either of these devices if not Verified in accordance to the requirements of the National Measurements Act 1960 are not permissible as evidence in court, as the reading was obtained illegally, and the operator is actually liable for prosecution.
Richard Leschen said – “Remember that all fines and forfeitures before conviction in a properly constituted court are null and void…”
Thanks for the practical advice. Frankly not nearly enough of it in this rolling corporate circus full of fake BS “laws” we seem to be trapped in.
For any road traffic fine to be lawful, one has to have injured someone with the vehicle you were driving at the time of the accident, or you have had to have damaged that person’s vehicle or their property.
Remember that all fines and forfeitures before conviction in a properly constituted court are null and void : See Justice John Latham Superior Court of Sydney Australia.
A magistrates Court is not a properly constituted court. It is in effect A Star Chamber and was outlawed in 1666. Do not appear in a Magistrates court. Simply write on the fine they sent you.
“No Contract Return to sender”. Then put it back in the same envelope and cover the window face with a big sticker to cover your name and address. Then post it back to the sender. Do not put a stamp on it. Let the Victorian Fines Ofice pay double the postage, they deserve it for trying to extort money from you !
Tony B: “Well built and maintained roads save lives period. not this other crap.”
“Eggsactly”! The crap serves to shift the responsibility on the behaviour of the population rather than the shortcomings of the gubbernments who are ripping us off at every turn.
It’s all supposed to be our fault, not theirs! What worthless people we are! Major gaslighting of us at work !
The cams and fines area a major example of the rip off, not to mention much of the road funding money disappearing into black sinkholes which explains the atrocious state of our roads..
Claude Ramains: “For all the wingeing government does about people being “anti-government” it wouldn’t be a problem if the government wasn’t so anti-people.”
It’s the political equivalent of child abuse! In a decent society its perpetrators would be condemned, deplored, prosecuted, tried, convicted and punished appropriately, all in good taste of course, as Pat might say.
But we put up with the abuse… For what reason?
These cameras are nothing about saving lives on the roads, they are revenue raising no iffs no buts, same with these dumb wire barriers on the roads, ( this communist government in Vic are definitely addicted to them ) they dont save lives, they are only car or truck wreckers if you hit them ,and if hit while on a motorbike well use your imagination. Well built and maintained roads save lives period. not this other crap. I in no way shape or form endorse vandalism but maybe these cameras could have an accident, they have lithium batteries in them dont they? well lithium batteries cause fires dont they? tesla cars certainly show that to be a fact, just thinking out aloud sports fans.
Indeed. For all the wingeing government does about people being “anti-government” it wouldn’t be a problem if the government wasn’t so anti-people.
I’m sorry Mr government but you don’t get to play the victim card.
We will save that for the people who are actually victims.
Albeit tenuously tangentially on-topic, this can’t be good…
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(stick “sputnikglobe” at the front)
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It’s nice to see the Police Union say the quiet part out loud. Now the wait for Pat from Vic’s editorial on my comment…..
The author said – “Readers have asked if the police union stood up for these sacked officers in deference to the 196 senior officers who allegedly were exempted from the jab and held their positions?”
Critical question right here, folks, because let’s state the obvious, these genocidal mongrels presided over mass-murder and Crimes Against Humanity, and not a SINGLE ONE OF THEM has been held to account. What’s more, they’re STILL ALL THERE. Business as usual, folks, nothing to see here, until the NEXT phase of the enslavement and depopulation agenda swings into action. This time with FOREIGN MERCENARIES on the streets in “police” uniforms.
These are the bastards that whacked some of their OWN just to feed a narrative for their agenda, and these are the arseholes that PUBLICLY DECLARED that Christians are TERRORISTS.
Universal surveillance and control is a big piece of the Globalist template, folks, but all these issues with traffic fines and so forth are just distractions, keeping our attention on trivia and annoyances while the storm clouds are gathering.
Wow the top cops wimped out of the forced injections, now that’s something to keep front of mind, all freemasons too I suppose
We have known this ever since they were first used as radar traps.
The police corporation is just a business for profit, and that is why they do not respect life and limb , carry guns, act like they are gods, shoot rubber bullets at people, assault citizens and call it arrests, support the government corporation and their enterprises all registered in the now defunct Washington DC/US Corporation City State, and use the corporatised Treasury called SPER to collect their unconstitutional fines and penalties.
To respect them would be unlawful as they are employees of offshore infiltrators to our nation, and posing as government.
Exactly. Ed
I was Road Safety Manager of the western region of the NSW Roads & Traffic Authority 1990-97 and achieved huge reductions in the road toll by refusing to spend my budget on speed cameras & school speed zones, because they do not achieve anything in road safety terms. I incurred the wrath of RTA Head Office bureaucrats for not adopting their schemes. My team and I used BCR (benefit cost ratio) analysis to focus our limited budget on things that would lower the road toll, e.g. drink-drive programs jointly with Police, school education programs re seatbelts and helmets etc. Speed cameras have an almost zero BCR in road safety terms, but for Treasury they are lucrative revenue raisers i.e. have a good BCR in dollar terms. Many good Police officers agreed with me.
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Speed does not cause accidents.
Speed is easy to monitor.
Causes.
Failing to keep left 30%
Incorrect lane changing and overtaking 30%
Inattention 30%
We really need red light cameras. Oh and by the way if you dont want to pay speeding fines – feel free not to speed. I do remember the stupid woman that complained that she got hit with a fine for doing 67 in a 60 zone because she sped up to catch the amber/yellow light and get through. If she does that and hits my wife going through a green light, under Australian stupid laws I will go to jail because she will never be able to walk or drive ever again. It is simple follow the rules. I have also been guilty of taking a movie of a guy passing me in the right lane after I had stopped at a red light – I gave it to the nice policeman and he thanked me and issued the idiot that ran the red light a fine for $391 and 3 demerit points. He deserved it.
Yea, their “legal robbery”.
Revenue, and SOCIETAL CONTROL through monitoring and tracking the movements of individuals. SillyString works well to disable them, I have heard…