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Another Egyptian text of interest is the XIX Dynasty, ‘Ipuwer Papyrus.’ The original source text of this work, or another similar text was probably plagiarised by the Israelite scribes when composing their Exodus mythology.
Moses’s so called ‘plague of darkness’ in Egypt (Exodus. 10: 22-23), the ‘pillar of a cloud by day,’ and the ‘pillar of fire by night’ (Exodus. 13: 21-22), and moreover, the associated temporary withdrawal of the Red Sea (ie., the Reed-Sea, or Sea-of-Reeds of the Delta), followed by a tidal wave, appears to be just another Israelite plagiarism of earlier Egyptian records describing the Santorini/Thera volcanic mega-eruption of 1624 B.C..
The observed records of this volcanic disaster were copied from an earlier Egyptian source [now lost], and later preserved in the XIX Dynasty ‘Ipuwer Papyrus,’ which also mentions, – that the event occurred some three hundred years before the time of Moses.
The latter fact does in fact agree with the Egyptian records of Akhenaton.
Likewise, the death of the pharaoh, ie., Ramesses I, was also cleverly sewn together with other ancient Egyptian texts to create the OT Exodus narrative.
Unpicking the mythological narrative leads to a better understanding of the historical reality, where in this respect, the Egyptian records are far more accurate and reliable.
What this does confirm, however, was that Israelite scribes were accessing ancient Egyptian records.
What causes so much confusion to those reading the Biblical narrative in isolation [ie., without comparing the Biblical data with the wider contemporary evidence], concerns the pivotal matter of the Israelite Joseph.
To the regular OT reader, he’s just that, – good old Joseph.
However, when comparing the Biblical testimony with the Egyptian evidence, it soon becomes clear, that there were in fact two Joseph’s, – who actually lived four centuries apart.
When the Old Testament authors decided to create their tribal history, the completely non-related histories of the two Josephs were simply amalgamated and strategically sewn together into a contrived story, or mythology of a single Joseph. This particular fraud is easy to determine by following the ancestral lines of the Egyptian royalty.
Although somewhat complex, the process is made easier due to the Egyptian royalty’s rigid enforcement of consanguineous descent via the female line.
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What is most interesting about studying ancient texts is knowing they were repeatedly copied over the millennia by generations of scribes, whom in many cases [and just like modern scribes], – did not even understand what they were translating.
A case in point being the Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts: – the oldest known complete book in the World. When this text was first being translated into English, which was achieved via the now standard discipline of sourcing and comparing all available copies of the text, which were located in various Old Kingdom pyramids, it was then discovered that certain spelling mistakes appeared in exactly the same place in every single copy of the text.
What this confirmed, was that the ancient Egyptian scribes were simply copying verbatim from a manuscript ‘master copy,’ and moreover, – one which they did not understand.
If it was simply an accidental spelling error of a tired scribe, the error would have been limited to just one copy of the book [in one just one pyramid], – but it was not.
Such minute evidence, not only confirms that those ancient Egyptian scribes were copying from a much older manuscript master copy, – which contained spelling mistakes, but it also confirms that they did not understand the text, – as the error would have been corrected.
And this is what’s so fascinating about studying ancient texts, as the scribes have left so many mistakes, that they end up exposing their flaws, their biases and agendas.
The Old Testament is no different, – people just need to examine the related literary records of contemporary Ancient Egypt and make the appropriate historical comparisons.
What we can say for sure, – is human behaviour is much the same as ever.
“The stories are all mixed together.”
We’re still looking for the Ancient Egyptian records of Moses’ holiday visit to Egypt, are we? The Egyptian M$M at the time must have missed it. An inconvenient lack of evidence. As is the case with myths.
Oh, and what happened to the Canaanites and other assorted land owners in that region? Genocided, were they? Or did they simply disappear from “natural” causes when Abraham came to town?
The red sea might have parted as written in a tidal wave where the tide recedes but imagine trying to get across the seabed with sandalled feet or chariots ??? !!! ??? The stories are all mixed together.
Editor, thank you for your reply.
Of course, Simon Turpin, the executive director and primary speaker for Answers in Genesis would defend the Bible and thereby defending the indefensible as the Torah/Bible is nothing but a collection of Jewish Fairy Tales with fictitious characters like Mr. Yahweh himself, Moses, King David, King Solomon, etc., and events, like Exodus, which never took place.
As I mentioned before the Jews were NEVER in Egypt and therefore Exodus NEVER happened. IF Exodus really did happen then the Jewish God, Mr. Yahweh, who, by the way, is also worshipped by Christians and Muslims, is an Almighty Bad and Incompetent Tour Guide.
He surely didn’t take the shortest route from Egypt to the “Promised Land”, which would have taken his Chosen People at the most a couple weeks to reach their destination.
Instead He had his Chosen People wander the Sinai Desert for 40 years and, wait for it, CROSS THE RED SEA ! Of course, He had to show off his tricks to impress His Chosen People and the Bad Egyptian Pharaoh. What a waste of time and effort and which logistically also would have been impossible.
Even with God’s Help, Logistics Make Exodus an Impossible Event.
FIRST, THE ROUTE
The map and it’s points of destination below is copied from the a website without permission but surely they would want their concept of the Exodus spread throughout the land and God hasn’t said I shouldn’t do this so here it is.
BIBLE MAPS Israel’s Exodus from Egypt and Entry into Canaan
https://thechurchoftruth.org/95-2/
“The etymology of the word Israel from Strong’s Concordance.”
Yes, Strong’s version sounds good too. But who is holding the stone deed Abraham got for the Promised Land?
hancnx9 We are well aware of the Ron Wyatt controversy. It just happened that the particular website we linked to referenced his finding in regard to the Red Sea crossing site. Wyatt’s finding of the site correlates to what other archaeologists regard as the crossing site, but yes, the chariot wheels and pillar claims are disputed. The creationist organisation AnswersInGenesis offers a much more extensive review of the Exodus questions, which we should have posted instead of the other link.
https://answersingenesis.org/archaeology/searching-for-sinai/
Daviddd2 The etymology of the word Israel from Strong’s Concordance.
Yisrael: “God strives,” another name of Jacob and his desc.
Original Word: יִשְׂרָאֵל
Part of Speech: Proper Name Masculine
Transliteration: Yisrael
Phonetic Spelling: (yis-raw-ale’)
Definition: “God strives”, another name of Jacob and his desc
[…] Source link […]
WTF!!! Crossing the Red Sea is no big deal. It can be done in different ways.
But PARTING IT is a bit more of a job. The existence of the Tooth Fairy is a considerably more realistic probability.
Gotta feel compassion for people who are REALLY still stuck with Witch Doctor type superstitions.
“The people of God are the Israel of God.”
IS = goddess of Egypt (Isis)
RA= god of Egypt
EL = god of Canaan and Syria
Did somebody in the Levant manage to put them all together and make some Levant tribes syndicate together as ISRAELites yet quite a few other Levant dwellers refused to buy the idea? Well, the truth is most likely scrubbed and we can only speculate.
Editor:
Sorry to disappoint you, but Ron Wyatt was a TOTAL FRAUD.
He was a colourful and controversial amateur archeologist who claimed to have found Noah’s ark, the Biblical Ark of the Covenant, the location of Sodom And Gomorrah, the Tower of Babel, the true site of Mt. Sinai, the true site of the crucifixion of Jesus, and the original stones of the Ten Commandments. He was a passionate and sincere man, according to his supporters, but his critics abound and scientists and archeologists regarded him as an untrained maverick at best and there are some who regarded him as a fraud. Wyatt died from cancer in 1999.
In 1978 Wyatt found what he said were the remains of chariots and chariot wheels at the bottom of the sea. They were heavily covered with coral.
Wyatt claimed to have retrieved one of the wheels and said an Egyptian authority declared that it was from the 18th dynasty of Ancient Egypt, but nobody seems to know where that chariot wheel is is now located.
The “gilded wheel” photographed by Wyatt was a digital “recreation” of it.
Every one of Wyatt’s alleged “discoveries,” none of which, however, have ever been verified by legitimate archeologists. Wyatt always seemed to get a glimpse of something and then it promptly vanishes, like the gilded wheel, or the Phoenician style column found on the Saudi coastline and which contained in Phoenician letters (Archaic Hebrew) the words: Mizraim (Egypt ); Solomon; Edom; death; Pharaoh; Moses; and Yahweh; or “the Blood of Christ” on the “Judgment Seat” beneath the Temple site in Jerusalem which only Wyatt saw. Other evidence/claims of Wyatt likewise vanish after closer examination. Even those who at first supported his claims to have found Noah’s ark no longer believed him after examining the evidence
Are any of Ron Wyatt’s finds accepted by modern day archaeologists?
I have to go out but in short I can say, why should I believe finer points of history, rather I choose NOT to believe things that sound like bullshit such as “God hardened Pharaohs heart” ( wiped out all the first born sons ) and Moses was found by Pharaohs daughter; crossing of Red Sea is not disputed but God parting the sea and the entire history erasure of the flood, and a guy living inside a fish, it all sounds like BS. As for Egypt the Nile was a magic highway bringing down goods of all types for marketing in the Mediterranean, the Nile had a series of owners including Persians and no doubt all sorts of types who preferred to keep a lower profile sometimes, and change the stories to suit their purpose. I learned in school that studying one history book was a pointless exercise, anyway more later, out of time now
The Australian Constitution is a very good law. The politicians have been trying to get rid of it since about the mid-1970’s and it is still the law. The Australian Constitution will not allow Talmud to replace English common law. The government is committing an act of treason and should be put in jail.
The people of God are the Israel of God.
But the church today overwhelmingly supports physical (rather than ONLY spiritual) Israel under the recent eschatology (last couple hundred years) “pre-millennial pre tribulation rapture dispensationalism”, thus completely disregarding Mt 21:43. ….”Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof”. It is clear, it is concise. The physical nation of Israel has no place in God’s plan other than the remnant still being called.
We have wonderful and loving evangelists who expose the Koran, but are reluctant to expose today’s nation of Israel when it comes to the Talmud. It is as if they believe that Israel ONLY studies the Torah.
See extracts from the Jewish Talmud and others:
Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5 “It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.” Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament. Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772 “Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.”
Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed. “AlthSchene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b “Though the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.” Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b “If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.”
Jalku Rubeni gadol 12b “The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs.” Coschen hamischpat 405 “A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.” Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855 “Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form.”
Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b “The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts.” Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30 “The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honour the the dog more than the non-Jew.” Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations. Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old). Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old. Kethuboth 11b. “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest. Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave. Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog (“Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed”).
Oh Church, come out of the spell of the pre tribulation rapture…………
In 100 years time the story of ‘covid’ will be told;
“A great plague spread the earth and people were in fear for the lives. They wore masks and were afraid to go near each other. It was highly contagious. The streets were locked down as the plague touched every home except for the leaders of the day. They had ancient knowledge and were able to weave their magic so that the plague came nowhere near any of them. Allopaths of the day, greatly admired by the public, were able to come to the rescue of those who were at risk of dying and created a serum which helped to ward off the deadly disease. Despite these heroic attempts, many millions died in one of the worst plagues the world has ever known.”
My point is, history essentially remains a mystery as we look back.
It depends who writes it.
It depends on so many factors, so many preconceived ideas, statistics, book burnings and where one excavates or how far down one goes.
We are all only here for 100 years.
All we can do is pick out the bones and not take ourselves too seriously.
Most things we will never know.
For me personally, the most interesting site of Ancient Egypt, which unfortunately, is also probably the most neglected, is the mysterious semi-subterranean Temple of Hathor, whose foundation pre-dates the pyramids of Giza (ca. 2570 B.C). This is located at the summit of Mt. Horeb (Mt. Serabit).
The Temple’s central shrine to Hathor, contains a large upright pillar of Amenemhet III (r. 1841-1797 B.C.), the son-in-law of Esau, via his marriage to Esau’s daughter, Igrath. Pharaoh Amenemhet III and Queen Igrath were the parents of the Dragon-Queen,Sobeknefru. The Temple also contained a statue-head of Akhenaton’s mother, Queen Tiye.
But the most interesting feature of the Hathor Temple, concerns the numerous inscriptions of the mysterious substance- ‘Mfkzt’ (gold-powder), as it now seems almost certain, that the Temple was specifically devoted to the creation of this highly revered ‘white-powder.’
Confirmation of this is clearly evident on the Temple’s walls, which are plentifully inscribed with the word ‘Mfkzt,’ and it’s synonym ‘Bread,’ whilst a nearby engraving depicts the goddess Hathor along with Thutmosis IV and an attendant carrying a loaf of this special Bread.
Within the Giza pyramids, archaeologist have located only one single word, which is located at the entrance of the King’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid: – this solitary hieroglyph is ‘Mfkzt.’
This is identical to the ‘Shew-Bread,’ otherwise known as the Manna-Bread. In the Ancient Egyptian ‘Book of the Dead,’ the king’s journey to the Underworld, also involved the question, Manna? – meaning – ‘What is it?
The earliest mention of the word ‘Mfkzt,’ appears in the oldest book in the World, The ‘Pyramid Texts’ of King Unas, where it is described as the ‘Field-of-Mfkzt,’ and where the king shall live forever with the Gods.
How many readers of the Biblical account of the events at the foot of Mt.Horeb, stop to think?, that when Akhenaton melted the Israelites gold down, and then fed it to them as ‘Manna-Bread:’ then why did it not simply turn to molten liquid gold?, which occurs under normal furnace conditions?
At the same time, the hieroglyphic inscriptions of the Temple of Hathor tell a very different story about this pivotal mountain, which may explain the vast amounts of mysterious white-powder which were still in situ when the site was first discovered.
Although admittedly corrupt, the Biblical descriptions of fire and smoke at the mountain’s summit, appear to be strongly indicative of an industrial scale furnace.
I’m too busy to say more, but there’s often more going on than meets the eye.
The creation of pro-Zionism within the Christian culture.. A very interesting read.. this bible created the term anti-semitism..
https://christianobserver.net/the-scofield-bible-its-powerful-effect-on-modern-christianity/
Some readers doubting biblical accounts attributed to the ancient Hebrew people, should be aware of recent archaeological evidence of the Red Sea crossing, which now almost certainly took place on a shallow part of the Gulf of Aquaba (part of the Red Sea). There is even evidence of chariot wheels, preserved by coral, on the ocean floor at this location. A pillar marking the crossing site was found at the edge of the water by Ron Wyatt in 1978 at Nuweiba Beach in Egypt. Saudi Arabians also acknowledged a crossing site where another pillar was found.
https://evidence-for-the-bible.com/archeological-evidence-for-the-bible/archeological-evidence-for-the-red-sea-crossing/
Joe Bogan:
“Commenter cnx9 & various others
The Hebrews you are talking about were set up by the Pharaohs … You must understand you don’t get something from nothing, the “jews” have been created all the way along by the Egyptian empire… You can’t just swallow everything put in front of you.”
I certainly won’t, but it is YOU who does the “swallowing everything put in front of you”.
The Hebrews were set up by the Pharaohs ?… OH, REALLY ?… Are you blaming the Pharaohs for the Jews’ bad behaviour ?… So, it is not their Racist and Supremacist Torah and Talmud after all ?…
DEBUNKING THE ISRAELITE MYTH: ANCIENT EGYPT KNEW NO PHARAOHS
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/12/09/ancient-egypt-knew-no-pharaohs/
THE STORY OF ANCIENT EGYPT, THE ISRAELITE VERSION
Of all the narratives that were told about ancient Egypt, the Hebrew Bible is the one narrative that managed to convince the world with its stories of some Pharaoh and Hebrew slaves that, it alone, monopolized the truth about the history of ancient Egypt.
Most of the scholars of the history of the ancient Near East for nearly two millennia relied primarily on the Bible as a scientific reference and in doing so they simply followed what the Hebrew scribes wrote, or better yet tampered with in the history of ancient Egypt and blindly took it for granted.
Scholars of the Biblical ancient history of the Near East and in the absence of the technology of modern archeology, and instead of excavating the earth and digging out the hidden truth, they simply resketched the landscape and chronicles of that remote period of time following whatever signs they encountered within the confines of the Bible pages.
This is how the world got to recognize Egypt as the land, according to the Hebrew’s alleged narrative, where pharaohs brutally reigned and enslaved the ancient Hebrews and also as the land that witnessed the alleged devastating ten plagues, the parting of the sea and the epical exodus of the Israelites from Egypt.
So whenever Egypt was mentioned during the last two thousands of years, the word pharaoh would simultaneously pop up in the discourse thus adding more deluding power to the Hebrew and Biblical designation of the rulers of ancient Egypt as pharaohs.
ANCIENT EGYPT RESURRECTED
In the mid-nineteenth century the genuine version of the history of ancient Egypt and the Near East was beginning to unravel as its true stories were being retold again.
Ironically enough, what the excavated records of ancient Egypt told the modern historians and archeologists was totally different from what the Hebrew narrative said.
But what struck historians as a total surprise is the fact that ANCIENT EGYPTIAN RECORDS HAD NO MENTION OF ANY ISRAELITES IN EGYPT, NON WHATSOEVER, while the Hebrew Bible is replete with tales of Egypt, and the more of ancient Egypt texts and inscriptions were deciphered, the remoter from truth the Biblical narrative looked.
Interestingly, and as the historical findings and the non- stop archeological discoveries were in the process of resurrecting the true story of ancient Egypt the Biblical narrative kept on decomposing subjecting some of the dominant Israelite stories, like the exodus, to demolition after it had been scientifically refuted by prominent modern archeologists, many of whom are Israelis and who amongst other Canadian and American Egyptologists now view the story of the Israelites’ exodus, along others like the zombie tale of the ten plagues and the “Demille-style” parting of the red sea as mere myths at best or some of the ancient Israelite’s tales that had been somehow magnified, stretched out and skillfully embroidered by the gifted Hebrew scribes of the Bible over the years.
Dr said – “The human situation is no different to the Goat…”
Perhaps if the Goat wrote a sternly worded petition, the Dragon might reconsider.
The human situation is no different to the Goat not recognising what the is Dragon is, – whilst the Dragon recognises what the Goat is?
@hancnx9
>Joe Bogan, the Hebrews were NEVER in Egypt. Therefore Exodus NEVER happened and Moses NEVER existed. The Torah/Bible is ALL JEWISH FICTION.
There is a great documentary series called Patterns of Evidence that shows that there is a town in Egypt that has been unearthed called Avaris which is likely the site where the Hebrews resided during their stay. From memory, I believe the documentary also presents evidence of Hebrew carvings in the desert and of a large Egyptian stone monument that references the Hebrews.
https://creation.com/patterns-of-evidence
https://www.patternsofevidence.com/
https://creation.com/egypt-chronology
https://creation.com/debunking-the-documentary-hypothesis
Commenter cnx9
I have heard all that stuff and agree with some of it, the KM in Ukraina etc.
You must understand you don’t get something from nothing, the “jews” have been created all the way along by the Egyptian empire, all empires suck up the cultures around them, those Hebrews had no resources for empire. For historians and archaeological evidence, forget about all that, follow the money, follow the empires power trail, just ignore the “historians” and also understand groupings like “Jew”, Australian” American” etc are demographically meaningless. I don’t expect you to immediately surrender your position but I’ve said enough for now anyway.
Joe Bogan, the Hebrews were NEVER in Egypt. Therefore Exodus NEVER happened and Moses NEVER existed. The Torah/Bible is ALL JEWISH FICTION.
Israeli archaeologist Ze’ev Herzog, provides the current consensus view on the historicity of the Exodus:
The Israelites never were in Egypt. They never came from abroad. This whole chain is broken. It is not a historical one. It is a later legendary reconstruction – made in the seventh century [BCE] – of a history that never happened.
William Dever, an archaeologist normally associated with the more conservative end of Syro-Palestinian archaeology, has labeled the question of historicity of Exodus “dead.”
No Archaeological Evidence of a 40 Year Sojourn in the Desert
Modern archaeological research has found no evidence that the Sinai desert ever hosted, or could have hosted, 3+ million people, nor of a massive population increase in Canaan, estimated to have had a population of between 50,000 and 100,000 at the time. The wilderness of the southern Sinai peninsula shows no traces of a mass-migration such as Exodus describes, and virtually all the place-names mentioned, including Goshen (the area within Egypt where the Israelites supposedly lived), the store-cities of Pithom and Rameses, the site of the crossing of the Red Sea, and even Mt Sinai itself, have resisted identification.
The term “Khazarian Mafia” itself is “misleading, vicious and gets the real criminals off the hook” – JEWS and their JUDAISM.
ALL former JEWISH ATHEIST ZIONIST Israeli Prime Ministers were born in Russia, Poland, Ukraine, home of the “Khazarian Mafia”. Netanyahu’s father was born in Poland.
Yet they ALL do believe that Mr. Yahweh, their Jewish God and his TORAH, gave them the “Promised Land”.
Here a perfect example of Netanyahu, who is NOT a religious Jew at all, last December calling the Palestinians AMALEK, their Eternal Enemy according to the Jewish Torah, to be destroyed.
Netanyahu’s Disturbing Analogy: Palestinians as Amalek
To: hancnx9 March 23, 2024 at 11:52 am
After studying your comments: I had to include the Unz link and maybe some readers might appreciate this.
Not again, “Talmud” – “Torah” – “Yahweh”
Will “Redemption Through Genocide” End the Golden Age of American Jews?
https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/will-redemption-through-genocide-end-the-golden-age-of-american-jews/#comment-6461985
Some of the comments are worthwhile to have a look.
Yahweh is mentioned some 26X.
Have a well deserved time studying this article from the Unz website.
Some comments, [148] Who is Yahweh? and many more, [69][70][73][75][80] anyway most of them are interesting.
Comment [165] Part comment:
“Yahweh” is a neo-retarded failure of translation of the Tetragrammaton, using chronologically asynchronous pronunciations that never co-occurred in history. Vain f***tards use it so that they can pretend they know the name of God. Other vain f***tards use it so they can pretend they know where the name of the first vain f***tards’ unfortunate co-religionists’ God came from. Yahweh was never the name of any god, nobody had ever said it prior to the 1700s. Thank the “Enlightenment” for yet more douchebaggotry.
“The Jews have always had a fatal attraction to messianism,” and “Zionism is no exception.
Chutzpah and lack of normal social manners indeed. It’s no wonder, normal civilized people want nothing to do with them.
Commenter cnx9 & various others
The Hebrews you are talking about were set up by the Pharaohs, Moses was a Judas-Goat and after the made-up red sea pedestrian event, the 40 years in the wilderness was a cultural deprogramming. You can’t just swallow everything put in front of you. The old books have plenty of writers and editors. So, mixing up the Khazarian Mafia with the average “jew” in the street is misleading, vicious and gets the real criminals off the hook – EXACTLY AS INTENDED.
Most people when they realise the impositions of the Talmud will regret the day they ignored it on their doorstep.
The Talmud should only be within the boundaries of the Judaic religion and even then, some of their laws should remain constrained under Common Law.
When a Country imposes religious law instead of common law irrespective of one’s religious beliefs or not, we already know what that looks like.
The Talmud holds the seven ‘Noahide’ laws.
This is where I think people should at least try to pay attention.
One of the seven Noahide laws is the law that anyone who does not worship the Judaic G-d is an idolator and the penalty for that is death.
So that would require Buddha to be stashed away because he is considered an idol, and imagine all those Indian gods that under the Talmud are considered idols.
Then there is the one who called himself ‘I am’. That would be the Christ Jesus.
Yup. Worship of Him would clearly be idolatry too.
He said He was God (of the Trinity Father, Son and Holy Spirit)
And the penalty under Noahide for the practice of idolatry is….death.
So that’s pretty serious.
Nothing something a ‘free’ world would be used to.
Apparently the Talmud will make allowances for the Islamic God Allah, as it relates to the Judaic Abraham lineage.
Muslims acknowledge the pentateuch, the first 5 books of the Old Testament.
Mohammed was a prophet but he didn’t claim to be G-d.
I wonder how Talmudic law fits in with Islamic Countries.
Or Countries becoming Islamic.
I guess it could fit right in.
I would say that any ‘free’ Country that imposes Talmudic law instead of Common Law, which is common to all man, irrespective of any religion, needs to think long and hard about the consequences of living under the imposition of ‘religious rule’.
A Bill of Rights and the underpinning of Common Law instead of religious law becomes all the more urgent.
That includes America who has an impending President (Trump) who has endorsed the Noahide laws last time he was in Office.
Chabad (Trump devotee) calls them ‘seven laws for a beautiful planet’.
With this new ‘International Rules Based World Order’ here and now the question remains.
Whose rules exactly?
What rules?
Spell it out.
“Have we mentioned the word “Lockstep”?”
Lockstep is close enough to goosestep, I reckon. No matter whether it’s the nazis or the commies, it comes from above! Certainly not from Biden’s left or Trump’s right.
We live within two systems of order, …law and grace.
The general world is under law, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
The under grace group are under the teachings of Jesus that are where Common Law comes from, and common sense.
The Temple curtain was rent and so was law when Jesus died at the hands of the Jewish heirarchy, and grace was there for those who would choose it.
So you have to choose one or the other.
If you choose to live by the law, you will be judged by the law, and that cannot save you,…only Jesus system of grace can save you.
If you choose grace, genuinely, you will be saved….?
We have been fed religious jargon by the same people that killed Jesus, as they are still around.
So to get to the actual truth, there is only one source of that currently available, and that is the Holy Spirit (of Jesus), who you can invite into your being and can be your teacher, and you will have to learn to understand Him inside of you.
General law is what the governments use based on the Old Covenant Laws, and now fully distorted by these creeps that descended from the old temple worship, who run our world on behalf of Lucifer and Satan.
So it has been used to manipulate mankind into debt slavery except for the elites who are the beneficiaries of their system.
Those who follow Jesus and His teachings are reliant on God’s help, and should become informed and practised in God’s system of Grace, whilst being surrounded by the slavery and bondage of government law.
God did not promise us an easy life. We are here to learn from the lessons of life that are presented.
But we can still endeavour to alter things for the better on the way, which we see being done by Patriots who mostly seem to be Christians.
Parliaments operate on Satans behalf, and so do their courts…Admiralty Maritime Corporate business laws on top of laws endlessly.
The church is under Corporate Law for tax benefits, etc., and you have to search hard to find a genuine one.
That is why you are almost on your own, with only God’s help, so be filled with the Holy Spirit of God, as that is where your success and happiness and safety resides.
It’s very convenient to have these front organisations take the blame while the real controller sits back and laughs while directing the stage play.
And where does the Talmud come from ? The Racist and Supremacist Torah, the word of the Jewish God. Without the Torah NO Talmud !
When the Jews invaded the “Promised Land” their Genocidal god, Mr. Yahweh, told them what to do with the people who inhabited that land.
Numbers 33:50-53-50-53
GOD spoke to Moses on the Plains of Moab at Jordan-Jericho: “Tell the People of Israel, When you cross the Jordan into the country of Canaan, drive out the native population before you, destroy their carved idols, destroy their cast images, level their worship-mounds so that you take over the land and make yourself at home in it; I’ve given it to you. It’s yours.”
Deut. 20:16-18
However, you must not let any living thing survive among the cities of these people the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance. You must completely destroy them – the Hethite, Amorite, Canaanite, Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite.
The JEWS stole the land of the people who owned it and killed them, but, of course, their Loving god, Mr. YAHWEH, gave it to them as an “inheritance”.
Fast forward to 1948 when the European Ashkenazi ZIONIST Jews this time, stole the land of the Palestinians, murdered them and drove them off their land, just like the ancient Israelites did millennia before them. Of course, again, Mr. YAHWEH, their Loving god, gave them the “Promised Land”.
So, what’s the difference between the ancient Israelites, “the Good Guys”, and the European ZIONIST Ashkenazi Jews, “the Khazarian Mafia/Synagogue of Satan” to many? They both follow the TORAH and TALMUD and believe that Mr. YAHWEH gave them the land.
In an amazing display in 2019 that stunned members of the United Nations Security Council, Israel’s UN ambassador Danny Danon used the Bible to defend the Jewish people’s claim to the land. The history lesson came during a special session at the Security Council.
In a dramatic moment, Danon opened the Bible and read aloud God’s covenant with Abraham from Genesis 17:
“And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your descendants after you throughout the generations for an everlasting covenant. And I will give to you and your descendants after you all the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession and I will be their God.”
Danon then raised up the Bible, turned to attendees and said, “This is the deed to our land.”
So handy to create a god, Mr. YAHWEH, who then promises you the whole world.
The JEWS, throughout their history, excel at creating FICTION INTO “FACTS”.
The TORAH, just like the HOLOCAU$T, is all FICTION.
JUDAISM is not a religion and certainly not a belief. It is the culture of the Jewish People.
It’s a license to lie, cheat, steal, rob, exploit, prostitute, enslave, destroy, torture, murder as long as the victim is not JEWISH. It’s a mental disease somewhere in between bipolar disorder and psychopathy. It’s the membership in a terrorist, satanic cult.
Any wonder why they have been expelled 1030 times over the past millennia ?
See: JEWISH EXPULSIONS 1030 TIMES (2023) – JEFF RENSE (VIDEO)
Kudos to Cairns News for exposing these criminals.
These filths are like a slime that has spread throughout the world. Only a few of us know what these filths have done and are attempting to do and get away with.
Jesus Christ exposed these evil vermin who have hoodwinked the world into even allowing these filths to commit genocide.
How the worm turns, folks.
Maybe Hitler was onto something. But you’d be in jail right now if you made such a suggestion, even under your breath, anywhere in Europe. Coming soon to Australia and New Zealand.
Have we mentioned the word “Lockstep”?
Seems there’s a certain CONVERGENCE of plausibly “unrelated” events toward one universal outcome, all around the world. Which is made SO much easier by the vast majority of us choosing to be SPECTATORS in a grand Luciferian play.
Christianity was manipulated for centuries by the Vatican, Islam was manipulated for 30 years by the Bushs, now Judaism is being manipulated ( again ). Who is hiding behind these human shields, the usual crowd, the inheritors of the Greek, Roman and Egyptian empires, more recently including the Charlemagne Empire.
Now they have a breeding factory in Israel where they import any stragglers who can fit under their contrived umbrella of “Jew” and preferably those who develop Stockholm Syndrome to become more than willing human shields, they become aggressors, a new wave of crusader. The closest “jew” involvement in power is the KM who are Ptolemic Macedonian stock. People need to get a handle on the ancient bloodlines who are running everything – – – not without internal conflicts !!!
All sorts of families with crappy little empires expect their daughters to marry up not down and this instinct is much stronger in the ancient bloodlines who seem to own the cops so they have a licence to kill anyone who gets out of line.
We seem to have a CGI version of cancer-suffering princess Kate today after the controversial double walking down the road a few days ago. CGI Kate is making excuses about Easter, well anyone can try to figure it all out to suit themselves
https://rumble.com/c/THEPEOPLESVOICE
” “Moses received the (oral) law from Sinai, and delivered it to Joshua, and Joshua to the elders, and the elders to the prophets and the prophets to the men of the Great Synagogue.””
Which were the great men of the Synagogue? The High Priests or the Money Merchants?
Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
Talmud (i.e. doctrine, from the Hebrew word “to learn”) is a large collection of writings, containing a full account of the civil and religious laws of the Jews. It was a fundamental principle of the Pharisees, common to them with all orthodox modern Jews, that by the side of the written law, regarded as a summary of the principles and general laws of the Hebrew people, there was an oral law, to complete and to explain the written law. It was an article of faith that in the Pentateuch there was no precept, and no regulation, ceremonial, doctrinal or legal, of which God had not given to Moses all explanations necessary for their application, with the order to transmit them by word of mouth. The classical subject is the following in the Mishna on this wing: “Moses received the (oral) law from Sinai, and delivered it to Joshua, and Joshua to the elders, and the elders to the prophets and the prophets to the men of the Great Synagogue.” This oral law, with the numerous commentaries upon it, forms the Talmud. It consists of two parts, the Mishna and Gemara.
1. The MISHNA, or “second law,” which contains a compendium of the whole ritual law, was reduced to writing in its present form by Rabbi Jehuda the Holy, a Jew of great wealth and influence, who flourished in the second century of the Christian era. Viewed as a whole, the precepts in the Mishna treated men like children, formalizing and defining the minutest particulars of ritual observances. The expressions of “bondage,” or “weak and beggarly elements,” and of “burdens too heavy for men to bear,” faithfully represent the impression produced by their multiplicity. The Mishna is very concisely written, and requires notes.
2. This circumstance led to the commentaries called GEMARA (i.e. supplement, completion), which form the second part of the Talmud, and which are very commonly meant when the word “Talmud” is used by itself. There are two Gemaras; one of Jerusalem, in which there is said to be no passage which can be proved to be later than the first half of the fourth century; and the other of Babylon, completed about 500 a.d. The latter is the more important and by far the longer.
—Smith’s Bible Dictionary
zions are not Jewish.
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People need to get a handle on Cal Washington’s The Law Merchant videos, because that is the best protection we have-the commercial liability that all corporate-and governments are all corporate now-must accept. It is inescapable, and the vulnerability these corporate governments (I can’t repeat it often enough) face:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7B_o85Wtlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax43_JkVP1A
The man is brilliant-an 100% correct.
Whilst not wanting to blow my own trumpet I have done something similar here in Australia, with this publication having done a piece on that effort:
https://cairnsnews.org/2024/01/09/council-watch-groups-bleat-about-unaccountability-but-reject-liability-solution/
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