A BRITISH historian, author, climate scientist and airline captain Ralph Ellis, has highlighted the shocking failure of reason and logic behind the UK government’s net zero crusade towards a total transition to so-called renewable energy
His essay titled Unrelliables, Net Zero and Loch Ness was recently posted on X.
Red Ed Millipede is on a crusade to change the UK electrical grid to Unreliables, to achieve his Net Zero passion (obsession?). But there is a massive fly in Red Ed’s Energy Soup, and that is the question of stored backup energy.
At present it is natural gas that takes up the slack, when these unreliable fantasy energy sources fail – but to achieve Net Zero Red Ed wants to close all our fossil-fuelled power stations. And what do we do then?
Unreliables can stop working for days on end, so if Red Ed gets rid of the UK’s gas fired power stations to meet Net Zero targets, we will need a reliable backup energy source. The longest recent wind outage was for 21 days in April 2021, when wind came down to between 10% and 20% of maximum output for 21 days.
So we need a lot of stored energy to fill that energy gap. In fact, we need 30,000 GWh of stored energy to power the fully electrified grid for just 10 days. (This should cover the UK for 20 days, if we still have a little bit of nuclear, wind, and bio sources still generating.)
There are several ways of storing electrical energy, but they all come with huge costs and severe limitations.
(a) Chemical batteries. These are an efficient form of electrical storage, but they are very limited in capacity and very expensive. The two recent Tesla batteries at Cottingham and Lakeside are huge, and cost £75 million each. But they only contain 0.2 GWh each, which would only keep a fully electric UK grid going for 6 seconds. A 30,000 GWh battery to maintain the UK for ten days would be the size of Greater London, and cost £11,500 billion.
b. Hydrogen ‘batteries’. Hydrogen is untested on these scales, and the Royal Society’s cost estimate of £100 billion to build a ‘hydrogen battery’ system is laughable. The system would need: … 200gW of electrolysis capacity for a 20-day recharge, which is 4 times the present electrical grid, and is off the scale in terms of electrolysis technology.
And remember that electrolysis is not very efficient. … 800 deep caverns 3,000 ft down in Yorkshire, containing hydrogen pressurised to 3,000 psi. Note that compressing hydrogen is very energy intensive. … 50 new 2gW CCGT (Rolls Royce jet engine) power stations in Yorkshire, to generate 100gW of backup-energy using hydrogen.
Note that CCGT power stations used as randomly cycling backup are only about 50% efficient. A new transmission grid centered on Yorkshire. and another 140gW of extra ‘recharge’ wind turbines, to allow for all the many ‘hydrogen battery’ inefficiencies.
(Note: a ‘hydrogen battery’ is only about 30% efficient overall. Thus this hydrogen ‘battery system’ would require 100,000 GWh at the electrolysers, giving 60,000 GWht of hydrogen, resulting in 30,000 GWhe of real electrical power. And all of this would cost about £1,850 billion.)
(c). Pumped water (PWS). Unlike hydrogen, pumped water electrical storage (or a ‘water battery’) is quite efficient. The problem being that it is still quite expensive, and the UK does not have enough upland areas.
The Dinorwig PWS system was the most expensive power station ever made, and only stores 10 GWh. The new (proposed) Coire Glas PWS system has larger ponds giving 30 GWh, yet we would require 1,000 Goire Glas systems to power the UK for 10 days.
Where would we build 1,000 PWS systems, and how long would that take? At the present construction rate, Red Ed could declare the UK fully Net Zero in 1,000 years time. The costs for Coire Glas have not been finalised, but it looks like a 30,000 GWh PWS storage system would cost £2,500 billion, if we could find enough locations to build them.
(d) Loch Ness. It is often assumed that Pumped Water Storage requires high elevations, to reduce the volume of water being pumped. More potential energy equals less mass and volume of water required, which increases the number of possible PWS locations, and reduces construction costs.
But what if we had an unlimited water volume, what possibilities does this bring? The answer to large scale PWS storage systems might be Loch Ness – a large inland body of water, with very little habitation on its shores.
So yes, Loch Ness is a very large lake that could form the upper pond of a low-level PWS system. Loch Ness has a 16m drop to the sea and Loch Ness area is 56 km2 610 billion m3 water required for 30,000 GWh (Grok).
This equates to a 12 meter water rise (Grok) Only two dams are required, plus 100gW of turbine generators plus 100gW of transmission lines to England. Cost £500 billion?
The main downside to this proposal, is that Loch Ness would have to become an inland salt sea, which would change its ecosystem. But since greenies love chopping down trees to place wind turbines on top of hills, and to power Drax power station, I am sure they will not mind Loch Ness becoming an inland salt-sea. Besides, Loch Ness does not have an ecosystem.
There was a research project in the 70s looking for Nessie (the monster), but as soon as they probed the waters of the lake, they realised there was no food chain. The waters of Ness are so turbid that phytoplankton cannot thrive, and so there is no foundation for a decent food chain.
Dr Winfield estimated that all the open water in Loch Ness could only provide 93 kg of fish a year, for a top predator like Nessie. So Loch Ness it pretty much dead, and may benefit considerably if it became an inland sea. (Note: the other problem for a Jurassic Nessie, is that the lake was frozen solid during the last ice age advance, just 20,000 years ago…!)
Conclusion. While a Loch Ness energy storage may seem like a mad day-dream, these are the sort of wild fantasies that Ed Millipede’s Unreliables Revolution will entail. We cannot base a wealthy technological society upon unreliable energy, because everything stops when there is no power. YES, EVERYTHING STOPS.
Red Ed says he will make the UK an Unreliables Energy Superpower, but all he will achieve is ruination and destitution for the people of Britain. Remember that all nations are only ever 10 meals away from civil war.
Those are the high stakes that Red Ed is playing with here, and yet Red Ed has no idea how energy generation and supply works. He thinks we can just build a couple of wind turbines, and they will provide energy 24/7.
A bit like the Albo, the Australian Prime Minister, who said you can charge up your EV with solar power over night, ready for the morning drive to work. We are being led by brain-dead retards, and we let them indulge their absurd fantasies at our peril. Don’t support these idiots. Don’t vote for them.
obvious_bob
February 14, 2025 at 5:40 pm
DDBuckland: the farmer representative groups are part of the problem, and the farmers, conservative as they are, are probably, by and large, their own worst enemies, simply because of their conservatism, which is entrenched.
Thank you Bob,
I appreciate that.
Absolutely correct. The NFF is just a political training mob for aspiring National Party grippers. Ed
DDBuckland: the farmer representative groups are part of the problem, and the farmers, conservative as they are, are probably, by and large, their own worst enemies, simply because of their conservatism, which is entrenched.
If the farmer rep groups had done their jobs they would have beleaguered the government about Section 10o00 of the Constitution, which guarantees everyone the right to fair use of the water-i.e.: no-one can own the water, as it is a gift from God, for everyone.
In any event, the end of chemtrail spraying may be near, as per my favourite source.
There is a second one of these, but the first will do, as peopel can go to Anna’s site and have a look themselves:
http://annavonreitz.com/chemtrailsmaybegone.pdf
13 NATIONS SIGN AGREEMENT TO ENGINEER GLOBAL FAMINE BY DESTROYING FOOD SUPPLY
I add to my previous comment:
Come on all you weak kneed unionists get behind the food drought to politicians or it will be you and your families that will be starving. The truckies did a good job during the Covid scam, so why not now.
13 NATIONS SIGN AGREEMENT TO ENGINEER GLOBAL FAMINE BY DESTROYING FOOD SUPPLY
I call on all food suppliers to refuse to sell or give food to all politicians and their families until Australia withdraws from this agreement.
I suggest ALL politicians, as the innocent ones bringing down the system is the only way to get a result. I should think cutting off food supply would bring the most evil ones down.
Catering and supplies to the Houses of Parliament needs to be suspended as well.
Red Ed says he will make the UK an Unreliables Energy Superpower, but all he will achieve is ruination and destitution for the people of Britain. Remember that all nations are only ever 10 meals away from civil war.
In today’s world when politicians speak of Super Powers they are talking superiority at war so,
How would any country be a Super Power if it has no energy (electricity) to produce defensive and offensive weapons or other military equipment. Or any other industrial equipment. These beings are complete morons and I have no idea why even the idiots at the WEF put them in lead positions.
I HOPE ALL OUR FARMERS AND THE FARMERS FEDERATION OF AUSTRALIA AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN REALLY DO SOMETHING HUGE ABOUT THIS DESTRUCTION OF OUR FOOD/OUR FREEDOMS, RIGHTS AND CHOICES AND / OUR LIVES AND OUR COUNTRIES.
Let us say this as it is > Allegedly, this is absolute insanity for these ‘life destroying actions’ to be perpetrated against the global population destroying all our lives our cities and our countries. It’s absolutely staggering !
These are allegedly, the actions of the absolutely unhinged.
These all must be stopped and the people of the world to reclaim OUR countries / OUR World and All OUR Freedoms, Rights and Choices and to live in peace, freedom and happiness.
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13 NATIONS SIGN AGREEMENT TO ENGINEER GLOBAL FAMINE BY DESTROYING FOOD SUPPLY
By Hunter Fielding
Global Research, June 18, 2024
News Addicts 14 June 2024
The United States has joined 12 other nations in signing a World Economic Forum (WEF) agreement that seeks to engineer global famine by destroying the agriculture industry.
According to the agreement, which was drawn up by the WEF and the United Nations (UN), food production is causing “global warming” and must be eliminated.
To “save the planet” from “climate change,” globalists insist, farms must be shut down across the world.
The WEF agreement sets targets for how much farmland each nation must eliminate in order to comply.
Under the guise of reducing “methane emissions,” thirteen nations have signed the pledge to engineer global famine by gutting agricultural production and shutting down farms.
Announced earlier this year by the WEF’s Global Methane Hub — a cabal of crisis engineers who exploit public panic to destroy the world food supply — those thirteen nations are:
Argentina
Australia
Brazil
Burkina Faso
Chile
Czech Republic
Ecuador
Germany
Panama
Peru
Spain
The United States
Uruguay.
Imagine no meat production from Australia, Brazil, and the USA.
This is the goal of the globalists.
And they admit it’s all part of the climate fraud which has been thoroughly exposed as a quack science hoax, by the way.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/13-nations-sign-agreement-engineer-global-famine/5860390
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My additional comment >
Let us all pray that huge numbers of the global population have now awoken to what’s really going on.
These alleged desperately unhinged, obscenely rich, power crazed globalists must be stopped by the world’s people.
The evil global agenda by alleged treasonous global politicians, elite, big pharma, big tech, big media, big medicine, WEF, WHO, UN et al is going to continue to wreak destruction on millions more people, our lives, our countries and we will be prisoners in our own world which will be permanently run as Totalitarian Regimes by these alleged tyrannical lunatics unless they are stopped by all the people of the world.
It is allegedly pure evil – controlling/reducing the world’s food supply is the ultimate heinous control over every person on earth.
Globalists order banks to stop funding meat producers to ‘fight climate change’
Global banks are ordered to stop funding and “debanking “the world’s largest meat and dairy producers as part of an effort to supposedly” combat climate change.”
The goal is to establish a global ban on the consumption of meat and dairy by bypassing legislative means, writesHunter Fielding.
The war on the global food supply is intensifying and major meat and dairy producers are now in the sights of a globalist collective of groups funded by the World Economic Forum (WEF), Bill Gates and the United Nations (UN)………………
https://www.frontnieuws.com/globalisten-bevelen-banken-om-te-stoppen-met-het-financieren-van-vleesproducenten-om-klimaatverandering-te-bestrijden/
My comment >
Let us all pray that huge numbers of the global population have now awoken to what’s really going on.
These alleged desperately unhinged, obscenely rich, power crazed globalists must be stopped by the world’s people.
The evil global agenda by alleged treasonous global politicians, elite, big pharma, big tech, big media, big medicine, WEF, WHO, UN et al is going to continue to wreak destruction on millions more people, our lives, our countries and we will be prisoners in our own world which will be permanently run as Totalitarian Regimes by these alleged tyrannical lunatics unless they are stopped by all the people of the world.
It is allegedly pure evil – controlling/reducing the world’s food supply is the ultimate heinous control over every person on earth.
Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos want “climate vaccines” laced into the food supply
https://crazzfiles.com/bill-gates-jeff-bezos-want-climate-vaccines-laced-into-the-food-supply/
My comment >
Let us all pray that huge numbers of the global population have now awoken to what’s really going on.
These alleged desperately unhinged, obscenely rich, power crazed globalists must be stopped by the world’s people.
The evil global agenda by alleged treasonous global politicians, elite, big pharma, big tech, big media, big medicine, WEF, WHO, UN et al is going to continue to wreak destruction on millions more people, our lives, our countries and we will be prisoners in our own world which will be permanently run as Totalitarian Regimes by these alleged tyrannical lunatics unless they are stopped by all the people of the world.
It is allegedly pure evil – controlling/reducing the world’s food supply is the ultimate heinous control over every person on earth.
Not a supporter of wind turbines by any stretch but to say they do not provide 50Hz frequency in generation isn’t correct. They generate DC which is inverted to AC and this can be accurately governed. The misconception that they generate at AC directly is false.
To me they overpriced pieces of sh!t that are useless for baseload contribution.
Nuclear, coal and hydro are what builds nations.
This is an Extensive Report from Scientists from 2019 >
THE NONGOVERNMENTAL INTERNATIONAL PANEL (NIPCC) ON CLIMATE CHANGE – 2019 – Climate Change Reconsidered II – Fossil Fuels – © 2019, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change and Science and Environmental Policy Project
Published by THE HEARTLAND INSTITUTE
3939 North Wilke Road – Arlington Heights, Illinois 60004 U.S.A.
The Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC) is an international network of scientists first convened in 2003 to critically examine the reports of the United Nations-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Unlike the IPCC, the NIPCC is not a government agency and does not receive government funding.
Whereas the mission of the IPCC is to justify control of greenhouse gas emissions, NIPCC has no agenda other than discovering the truth about climate change.
Reviews of Climate Change Reconsidered II: Physical Science
“I fully support the efforts of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC) and publication of its latest report, Climate Change Reconsidered II: Physical Science, to help the general public to understand the reality of global climate change.”
Kumar Raina, Former Deputy Director General, Geological Survey of India
“Climate Change Reconsidered II fulfills an important role in countering the IPCC part by part, highlighting crucial things they ignore such as the Little Ice Age and the recovery (warming) which began in 1800–1850. In contrast to the IPCC, which often ignores evidence of past changes, the authors of the NIPCC report recognize that climatology requires studying past changes to infer future changes.”
Syun-Ichi Akasofu, Founding Director & Professor of Physics Emeritus
International Arctic Research Center, University of Alaska Fairbanks
“The work of the NIPCC to present the evidence for natural climate warming and climate change is an essential counterbalance to the biased reporting of the IPCC. They have brought to focus a range of peer-reviewed publications showing that natural forces have in the past and continue today to dominate the climate signal.”
Ian Clark, Department of Earth Sciences
University of Ottawa, Canada
“The CCR-II report correctly explains that most of the reports on global warming and its impacts on sea-level rise, ice melts, glacial retreats, impact on crop production, extreme weather events, rainfall changes, etc. have not properly considered factors such as physical impacts of human activities, natural variability in climate, lopsided models used in the prediction of production estimates, etc. There is a need to look into these phenomena at local and regional scales before sensationalization of global warming-related studies.”
S. Jeevananda Reddy, Former Chief Technical Advisor
United Nations World Meteorological Organization
“Library shelves are cluttered with books on global warming. The problem is identifying which ones are worth reading. The NIPCC’s CCR-II report is one of these. Its coverage of the topic is comprehensive without being superficial. It sorts through conflicting claims made by scientists and highlights mounting evidence that climate sensitivity to carbon dioxide increase is lower than climate models have until now assumed.”
Chris de Freitas, School of Environment
The University of Auckland, New Zealand
“Rather than coming from a pre-determined politicized position that is typical of the IPCC, the NIPCC constrains itself to the scientific process so as to provide objective information. If we (scientists) are honest, we understand that the study of atmospheric processes/dynamics is in its infancy. Consequently, the work of the NIPCC and its most recent report is very important.”
Bruce Borders, Professor of Forest Biometrics
Warnell School of Forestry and Natural Resources, University of Georgia
“I support [the work of the NIPCC] because I am convinced that the whole field of climate and climate change urgently needs an open debate between several ‘schools of thought,’ in science as well as other disciplines, many of which jumped on the IPCC bandwagon far too readily. Climate, and even more so impacts and responses, are far too complex and important to be left to an official body like the IPCC.”
Sonja A. Boehmer-Christiansen
Reader Emeritus, Department of Geography, Hull University
Editor, Energy & Environment
https://climatechangereconsidered.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Full-Book.pdf
brianajnz…2. I best heard it said something like ‘solar power is like the local under 12’s rugby team in a scrum with the Wallabies’…going nowhere!
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Nett zero is an impractical ideology, promoted by cunning parasites, sold to the naive, in order to get them to demand the destruction of their own living standards and remnant industries.
Well said Joe. Ed
Australia is already nett zero, look at all the trees. I asked the crooked G666gle and got this:
“Australia has about 24 billion standard trees, which have a trunk diameter of 30 centimeters and are about 15 meters tall. Australia also has 133.6 million hectares of forest, which is 17% of the country’s land area.”
This is 1000 trees for each person, and the trees are sucking CO2 out of the air as fast as they can, along with the grass and the rest of it.
We must be ten times past nett zero but you can’t tell these politicians, they are locked into their latest kickback / post political career opportunity.
THE ENTIRE NETT ZERO IS CORRUPTION
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I like some of your other work but the output of these things is irrelevant, you just put an inverter, transformer or whatever on it, storage is the issue, some places they are trying molten salt. It’s fairly complex but then so is a hybrid car and the taxi drivers seem to like them.
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He does not have a clue. It is a rant that has done the rounds for years.
He does not understand how and why electricity is produced.
1. Wind turbines are not unreliable they simply do not produce 50 hertz.
2. Solar is not unreliable and while it is capable of producing 50 hertz cannot synchronise and enter the grid.
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