By JOHN BIDEON HARTNETT, The Spectator Australia (Oct 15 2024)
FORTESCUE Metals Group, a leading Australian iron ore miner, has been actively pursuing green hydrogen as a key component of its decarbonisation strategy. Green hydrogen reportedly results in no carbon dioxide emission or production.
In May 2024, Fortescue launched its first US green hydrogen production project. It represented a $550 million investment in a facility to produce up to 11,000 tons of liquid green hydrogen annually. They renamed their green hydrogen facility in Buckeye, Arizona, to Arizona Hydrogen. However, recent developments have forced them to scale back their green hydrogen plans.
The same is true for Woodside, citing a lack of renewable electricity, and similarly for Origin Energy, when it realised that it is uneconomical. Each company withdrew from the market for the same reason – the lack of cheap electricity – which ‘renewables’ cannot provide. You need hydrocarbon (coal, petroleum, or natural gas) fired electricity generation for that.
Buying into what I call the Climate Cult dream, Fortescue had set an ambitious goal to produce 15 million tons of green hydrogen annually by 2030. The company invested in renewable energy projects and developed its own green hydrogen technology, including the PEM50 project, a 50 MW green hydrogen electrolysis production plant.
But in July 2024, Fortescue announced a significant scaling back of its green hydrogen plans, citing high electricity prices as a major factor. The company put its goal of producing 15 million tons of green hydrogen on hold until electricity prices fall. (That is like waiting for hell to freeze over.)
Additionally, Fortescue cut 700 jobs, affecting various parts of its business, including its green hydrogen operations. You have got to love the irony there! High electricity prices that have resulted from massive government (read ‘taxpayer’) subsidies to the green electricity sector are the reason companies cannot produce cheap enough hydrogen gas from electrolysis.
As I explained in Hydrogen Gas: another Climate Cult myth busted the problem is basic physics. And the dream of finding a pure source of hydrogen from a gas well is just that, more mythological than pink unicorns.
However, mining magnate Andrew Forrest, Fortescue’s founder and chairman, appears to be unfazed and downplayed the cuts made to the industry, stating that they do not signal a retreat from the company’s green hydrogen ambitions.
Forrest emphasised the importance of investing in renewable energy generation to drive down power prices, making green hydrogen production more commercially viable. More dreaming! Or is it just wishful thinking?
Fortescue remains committed to green hydrogen and its potential to decarbonise hard-to-abate sectors, such as iron ore operations. To extract the metallic iron from iron ore you need to use copious amounts of coal, and to make steel from that you need an enormous supply of both coal and electricity.
Solar and wind power just will not do it. It was coal and cheap electricity that got us out of the poverty of the Dark Ages. Why do they want to send us back there?
On October 2, 2024, Forrest said that it’s time to walk away from the ‘proven fantasy’ of Net Zero. That sounds like he is coming to see the light! Well, not quite it turns out. So, what did he mean by that?
But Forrest says it is time for the world to walk away from the ‘proven fantasy’ of Net Zero emissions by 2050 and to embrace ‘Real Zero’ by 2040 instead. What? He is a true believer, despite the fundamentals of the underlying physics of the universe.
Forrest continues: “What they are really saying is that you can’t do it. And I’m saying to each of those chief executives and those political leaders who use the words, “I can’t…” Okay, what about you get off the stage and let on a young girl [does he mean Greta?] or wiser leader who can. Someone with a bit of ticker because the technology is there.’
“We know the world can go Real Zero 2040 and I’m reaching out to the business people and politicians across our planet to say it is time now to walk away from this proven fantasy [of] Net Zero 2050 and adopt Real Zero 2040,” Forrest said. “We can, we must, let’s do it.”
His company is retreating from green hydrogen because it is not economically feasible to produce hydrogen by electrolysis. Neither is it by the two methods that do it well – steam reforming and methane pyrolysis. All these methods are energy-intensive.
Currently, 95 per cent of hydrogen fuel is ‘grey hydrogen’ made from natural gas via the steam reformation process, but that method produces more carbon dioxide than burning an equivalent amount of petrol.
And by our current understanding of physics the Climate Cult dream of mythical hydrogen gas mined straight out of the ground is just that. More mythology! It is a pain when you come up against the laws of physics and chemistry.
No amount of religious cries like, ‘We can, we must, let’s do it!’ can change the laws of physics.


JUST READ MY NEWEST BOOK, “WHEN THE STONES SPEAK”, by Doron Spielman…the stones of which he speaks are the archaeological proofs being excavated from the CITY OF DAVID..proving that the Jewish people have 3500 years of history in Israel. You can find an intro to the book on youtube. This is a great tool that can be used against the Islamic lies about “their land”.
The ones who gits $billions in gubberment funding and subsidies transferred to them is not the dumb dopes.
The dumb dopes is thems that silently feeds and tolerates the transfers.
Anybody who has taken the time to look into it will know ‘green carbon’ is a boondoggle… Just like the much touted
1980s proposed (by ignoramus politicians) ‘multi-function
polis’… (recall the politicians fervour at the time, to rebuild the economy after shipping jobs overseas, for ‘the German Model’ of economic growth, the ‘Japanese Model’, This, that, and other models – all to make it look like politicians were doing something, anything, to conceal their powerlessness…
I think Andrew Twiggy Forrest is having his Peter Brock moment remembering his black box encapsulating a crystal which was sold as the fuel economiser with the mystical power to align all the fuel particles travelling through to the engine claiming massive fuel economy.
Yes Andrew in a modern technocratically environment now your portraying yourself as a charlatan to your common sense audience.
The Vatican wants to put us back into: “… the poverty of the Dark Ages. Good luck folks.
On another note, however, I do applaud Andrew Forrest for his philanthropic donation…
https://au.news.yahoo.com/aussie-billionaire-announces-18-million-in-aid-for-gaza-as-children-starve-to-death-120050388.html
The Energy Realists of Australia called this nonsense out years ago.
MISPLACED EXCITEMENT ABOUT HYDROGEN
https://www.flickerpower.com/index.php/search/categories/technology/21-9-green-hydrogen
THE REAL COST
https://www.flickerpower.com/index.php/search/categories/general/21-18-the-cost-of-green-hydrogen
Rio Tinto bought up big on Lithium the other day
He is NOT a dope.
Treasurer GAVE him 4 Billion $….
(4 thousand million).
Will we ever see the accounting for it?
Will the Grant be taxable?
Will the costs be tax deductable?
Can not see the Forrest for the Twiggy? Come in Andrew, the Australian Mother Ship of Common Sense is calling. Don’t believe Common Sense?
Look at the Germans. If anyone could make green energy (or anything for that matter ) work – it would be the Germans. Green hydrogen steel is not going to work.
If there is any way it could have worked and those DEI points and EU subsidies could have actually worked for the production of German steel, Thyssenkrupp would know about it. But an investor call on their Duisburg steel plant is coming because the whole project – a DEI / Climate Nutjob money pit. The idea here is to produce industrial steel and the furnaces do not burn ESG initiatives.
Shares in giant German materials engineering conglomerate Thyssenkrupp fell 5% Monday after the company’s management warned it may have to cancel a heavily-subsidized project to produce…wait for it…green steel!
https://blackmon.substack.com/p/today-energy-absurdity-green-hydrogen/
We knew all this before Forrest invested one dollar.
He is nuts.
We intends building the largest wind turbine farm in NSW,
He knows nothing about electricity.
WTs are bogus.
A full on dope.
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