Albanese’s migrant rent-a-vote in Melbourne and Sydney kicked in at Saturday’s election. Forecast immigration figures will continue to flavour election results for Labor into the future
Census expert Glenn Capuano unpacks the latest population growth and decline trends by Local Government Area (LGA) in Australia, based on newly released ABS data for the 2023–24 financial year. As of June 30, 2024, Australia’s population reached 27.2 million—an annual increase of over 540,000 people, with net overseas migration accounting for a staggering 80% of that growth. While this marks the second-largest population increase ever recorded in absolute terms (following 2023’s record), early signs point to a potential slowdown in growth. This is the third annual update since the 2021 Census, offering valuable insight ahead of the next national count in 2026. New ERP data will be available in our profile.id and economy.id tools this week.
The latest population growth data are out for the 2023-24 year. Each year around late March the ABS releases this with a reference period of the end of financial year, June 30th of the previous year. This is our third yearly update since the 2021 Census – with a reminder that it all gets revised again based on the results of the 2026 Census.
The latest population data shows that Australia’s population stood at 27,194,369 at June 30th, 2024, a growth of 541,592 people in a year, driven by high overseas migration and low emigration (net overseas migration making up 80% of total growth). This was the second-largest annual growth (but not fastest in percentage terms) ever recorded in Australia, after 2023’s record. Indications are that in the latter part of the financial year (and the one quarter we have nationally since then) growth has slowed down, but migration remains high in historic terms, and that’s where most of our population growth comes from. Our population forecasters are assuming net overseas migration remains higher than official government forecasts into 2026/27.
The return to the cities continues
The main focus of this release is the regional variation. This shows that growth in our capital cities is higher than in regional areas, with the combined 8 capital cities of Australia adding 427,000 people compared to regional Australia’s 113,000. This means 79% of all population growth is in Australia’s Greater Capital City Areas. It continues a trend since COVID of a return to the cities, reversing the exodus of 2020-22.
At a capital city level in 2023-24, Greater Perth was the fastest growing, adding 72,700 people, or 3.15%, while Greater Melbourne added the most people, just over 142,000 for the financial year, and the second fastest growth at 2.74% just ahead of Brisbane’s 2.69%. Hobart had by far the slowest growth adding less than 1,000 people.
This table could represent Labor’s percentage voting margins.
| Capital city | ERP at 30 June 2024 | 2023-24 (no.) | 2023-24 (%) |
| Sydney | 5,557,233 | 107,538 | 1.97% |
| Melbourne | 5,350,705 | 142,637 | 2.74% |
| Brisbane | 2,780,063 | 72,930 | 2.69% |
| Adelaide | 1,469,163 | 22,125 | 1.53% |
| Perth | 2,384,371 | 72,742 | 3.15% |
| Hobart | 254,930 | 946 | 0.37% |
| Darwin | 152,489 | 1,367 | 0.90% |
| Canberra | 473,855 | 7,496 | 1.61% |
| Total capital cities | 18,422,809 | 427,781 | 2.38% |
Source: Australian Bureau of Statistics, Regional population 2023-24 financial year,
(ERP-Enterprise Resource Planning software)
Sydney vs Melbourne
Sydney remains larger than Melbourne on the widely used metric of the Greater Capital City Statistical Areas – these are stable wide boundaries around the cities, and in Sydney’s case includes the Central Coast.
Melbourne is larger on another measure, the “Significant Urban Area”, with a population of 5,245,182; about 100,000 more than Sydney’s 5,143,256. On this measure, which is not as widely used as the “Greater Capital City”, Sydney excludes the Central Coast and both cities exclude some outlying semi-rural areas making Melbourne larger when measuring contiguous urban area. We can say that Melbourne and Sydney on any measure are now very similar in size, and approximately twice as large as the next largest city in Australia. From Informed Decisions
Well, of course…that’s why I have been attempting to communicate >The WayWhere To< out of this "magnificent thing-eh!".
Who said that? Well, the bizarro man actor giving a "news interview" pretending to be a "coroner" at the SCENE of the "Sandy Hook" psyop. "Wayne Carver".
It never stops….a "coroner" named "Carver"?
The "joke" has been on us…as long as we let it…
This is Metallica's "Never Never Land".
("Momma Told Me(Not To Come"…too.))
("…this is the craziest party that could EVER be!.."that ain't the way to have fun…Son!…")
Where we came from is Always Always Land…that is; if you have any Truth in you.
(they don't want you to re-member(membership of/in TRUTH)). (That's the how and why of deception, seduction, and trauma.)
Deceit IMPRISONS.
And that's why The Truth Shall set us Free. Only The Truth can and will.
Well of course they are calling for [wait for it – drum roll please….] Punjabi to be taught in Victorian schools. Who did not see this coming?
All I can say Lindsay is “My Goodness”.
Any chance that the school is teaching English as well?
Lindesymonds said – “… These Alboville tent cities and camps of working, homeless Australians who can not afford rent are due and directly caused by UNI Party mass Global Majority imports…”
Trust the Plan. Because that’s what it is, in LOCKSTEP all across the world.
And BECAUSE it’s The Plan, they don’t even have to ask us.
It is not rents and ‘housing crisis’ driving the arrow upward on inflation and cost of living.
That is Big Jew Media, politically correct cognoscenti BS – , just like the ‘youth crime’ crisis is one of the weasel words they use to cloak a two tier law enforcement and criminal justice system based on RACE, colour and Marxist aggrieved priority ethnics.
According to the RBA, it is mass, uncontrolled migration that is driving inflation and skyrocketing living costs for Australians.
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/03/rba-admits-immigration-is-driving-inflation/
These Alboville tent cities and camps of working, homeless Australians who can not afford rent are due and directly caused by UNI Party mass Global Majority imports.
Lindesymonds said – “… It’s constant, it does not stop…”
… and they NEVER back down, they only ever DOUBLE DOWN.
All core principles of a successful genocidal nation-destroying business paradigm, developed and perfected over many centuries. Along with that OTHER gem of machiavellian genius, namely that they can kill US, but we can’t kill THEM and in fact we’re prohibited from disturbing a single solitary hair on their untouchable royally inviolable consummately priveleged heads.
Because unrelenting incrementalism, always pushing forward and NEVER taking a step back, pushing past every red line in succession with no possibility of any accountability or repercussion, normalising and entrenching every offense and depravity and atrocity into permanence, picking us all off one by one by one, is 100% GUARANTEED to get the job done.
And once we’re finally pushed to the ledge and over the cliff, then there’s no coming back EVER.
And that’s the whole point – which most people just refuse to comprehend, refuse to SEE, and won’t until we’re in FREE-FALL to our inevitable unavoidable irretrievable destruction and extermination.
And Big Jew Media just can not call ‘youth crime’ what it is: Black Entitlement to Crime. What is required is enforcement of laws that are on the books in a fair and equitable manner and for the courts to sentence in a fair and equitable manner.
It’s constant, it does not stop
https://w ww.you tube.com/watch?v=Qqei4RoV7k0
An Albo / Wong regime will certainly certainly swell the roll tide of Global Majority imports.
I think we will need the Babylon Bee to make one of those videos for us on “How to Avoid Harmfully Stereotyping a Musllim Immigrant Who Is Assaulting You.”
Whatever happens: bigotry, racism and Islamophobia must be avoided at all costs, possums. Count on the minimal police presence. When being stabbed, it helps to recall that most people-stabbers are white and male.
https://w ww.you tube.com/watch?v=Q qei4R oV7k0
Jase & Howard = 10/10 ! Old school gentlemanliness. Onya fellas!
Howard Wright,
Thank you for the Apology Howard, however I took no offence.
It takes a true honest gentleman to concede or Apologise in this current world we all are living in, and that I do highly respect in individual.
Apology accepted and Howard I’m always up for debate on fantastic free speech platforms like Cairnsnews.org.
Jase
@Jase
“So if you’re scared of the police Howard Wright, I’ll let you die on your knees.. but I’ll stand on my feet till the end.”
I’m not and I don’t doubt for a minute you would stand on your feet till the end when confronted by the order following, criminal thugs they are.
However, I concur that I misinterpreted your message about the various ethnicities and cultures who don’t rate health & hygiene at the top of their list of priorities, especially when it comes to preparing food, being allowed into Australia to work in jobs where it is of utmost importance for obvious reasons. I therefore sincerely apologize for my misunderstanding and unjustified personal attack.
Howard
Michael Maier said – “… In the not too distant future, non-adventurous Aussies could soon be enjoying the ‘sunrise special’ on their morning train journey…”
… and with well over 2 million Third World immigrants per year now deluging Australian shores, the not too distant future might be very close indeed.
Perhaps we should divert the immigrant Tsunami to the Land of Oz instead. At least they don’t have to worry about land rights – or do they? In any case, they’d have to rename the Yellow Brick Road in short order. What would the Munchkins think? Would Dorothy and her crew have even made it to the Emerald City? That poor lion doesn’t even wear shoes.
‘This can be confirmed with simple Google searches like: Trump 666 gematria………….’
Yes indeed- with simple Google searches’ designed for inbred ‘simpletons.
Poor old Caltrop’s clearly operating within the autism spectrum – a form of brain damage by the way, – a condition noted for its inability at perceiving, or interpreting data beyond face value.
It is because of the condition, why these imbeciles are so easy to lie to and deceive, as they believe whatever rubbish is spoon fed to them.
I would presume Caltrop’s nonsensical ramblings about Donald Trump and Trump Tower, ultimately derive from the cult movie, The Ninth Gate, – which his source presumably superimposed onto the fictional character Boris Balkan and Balkan Tower
A great movie by the way, where at the beginning, when Balkan takes Johnny Depp up to his rare Satanic book collection, be careful to note the lift floor number of Balkan Tower, along with the other hidden messages. Also take note of Balkan Tower and its resemblance to Trump Tower.
So whilst normal people enjoy a great sleuth movie, the autist imbeciles get taken for another fantasy ride: – no wonder Australia’s up ship creek?
Well of course they are calling for [wait for it – drum roll please….] Punjabi to be taught in Victorian schools. Who did not see this coming?
In Ballarat, the Indian community is concerned. Yes. They are very concerned. And aggreived.
Ms. Raman Preet Kaur has tearfully confided in the ABC that she has had to change her daughter’s name to Ebu so she would have a name that her Victorian school could pronounce. That hive of White supremacy and racism could not pronounce Gurubadat’s name so the solution obviously for the Ballarat school children is to learn Punjabi. https://www.noticer.news/indian-calls-punjabi-taught-victorian-schools. Especially the girls
Come to think of it Isn’t Punjab up there in NW India and Eastern Pakistan? [Note to self – do not, I repeat NOT write that thought and hit send until you have another beer].
I am sure Victorian PM Jacinta ‘diversity is our strength’ Allan will get straight onto this demand from the Indian community when she gets back from China with her ‘China strategy’. She was in India last year fishing for more Punjabis where she pledged millions to help Indian international students avoid caps imposed by the federal government and created a new regional visa pathway for them to get permanent residency. https://www.noticer.news/jacinta-allan-china-trade-mission/
She is just the Duracell Bunny when it comes to the strength of our diversity. I’ll bet you one whole pineapple, those little Ballaratis will be speaking Punjabi before you know it.
Michael Maier said – “… On the rocks, the ‘mines’ are so close together, that only highly advanced yoga postures would allow a safe dump without putting your foot in it…”
Not unlike the ideological gymnastics of all the Trump True Believers, who seem to be ever-ready to quickly scrape off any Truth they inadvertently step in.
“Trust the Plan”, folks. Just like all those people being systematically raped, tortured, starved, butchered and slaughtered over there in Gaza, all with Trump’s money and weapons and support and blessings.
Commenter Fed Up –
• ………..Donald Trump’s name equates to 666 in Jewish gematria, English gematria, Sumerian gematria, and ASCII computer code. This can be confirmed with simple Google searches like: Trump 666 gematria………….
(1) The Trumps purchased the most expensive building ever bought in the US, at 666 Fifth Avenue, a street symbolic of hubris, greed and money (Mammon).
(2) The Trumps paid $1.8 billion for the 666 tower. And 18 = 3*6 = 666. The 666 tower was bought by Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner. Kush was the patriarch of Babylon, the son of the cursed Ham, and the father of Nimrod who created of the Tower of Babel.
(3) The Trumps are also in the process of building a $666 million tower at One Journal Square. According to multiple reports the height will be 666 feet.
(4) According to multiple reports, the famous Trump Tower is 203 meters tall. And 203 meters = 666 feet.
(5) In Trump’s first fiscal year which started in 2016 (2016 = 666+666+666+6+6+6) the budget deficit exploded to 666 billion dollars (per Fox Business). Trump tweeted his congratulations for the budget passage on October 27, 2017. The bavister.org Julian Date calculator confirms that a Julian date of 6666 translates to the date of Trump’s tweet!
(6) Donald Trump inherited his grandmother’s real estate empire when she died on June 6, 1966 = 6-6-6. Her name was Elizabeth Christ Trump. Elizabeth means “vow” so her name literally means “Vow for Christ to be Trumped.”
(7) Donald Trump’s name equates to 666 in Jewish gematria, English gematria, and ASCII computer code. There are details on this page.
(8) Trump’s fearmongering comments about “rapists” and “drug dealers” vaulted him to the top of the polls on June 6, 2015 = 6+6+(1+5) = 666.
(9) Trump announced his candidacy for president on June 16, 2015 = 6+(1*6)+(1+5) = 666. On the Ides of March, he had 666 delegates.
(10) Trump uttered his unholy trinity of heresies on August 21, 2019, when he claimed to be the “King of Israel,” the “second coming of God” and the “Chosen One.” August 21 was the 233rd day of the year, and 2*3*3 = 18 = 6+6+6.
http://www.thehypertexts.com/Donald%20Trump%20666%20Mark%20of%20the%20Beast.htm.
This is what it looks like when you look after your own!
https://truthsocial.com/@ilpresidento/114479996719965070
Credit for link: Il donaldo trumpo on truth social
‘e.g. Take a walk along the shore of the Ganges, a tour of the slums in Calcutta or a trek in Africa or in some parts of Asia for a reality check.’
Ha, ha, yes indeed, – anyone been to the ‘holy town’ of Rishikesh?, – don’t even try getting to the Sacred Mother Ganga, as her devotees get up earlier than you do, in order to reinforce their ‘minefield’ of human excrement all over the river banks – of their Holy Mother!
On the rocks, the ‘mines’ are so close together, that only highly advanced yoga postures would allow a safe dump without putting your foot in it: – I am convinced yoga postures originated from this practical necessity?
Over in Canada, the ‘new Canadians’ are really going for it, the beaches of the Great Lakes are really getting ‘the treatment.’ Thankfully for the boring ‘old Canadians,’ yoga studios are springing up proportionately to the Indians growing beach offerings.
In the not too distant future, non-adventurous Aussies could soon be enjoying the ‘sunrise special’ on their morning train journey,
What do they call it now?, ah yes, – ‘cultural enrichment,’ – or did they mean ‘soil enrichment’?
Any cult that practices and imports/exports this kind of bullshit….
http://disq.us/p/32h1h4r
And believes in this crap as representing “God” is completely insane…
“The Covenant of Circumcision
God also said to Abraham, “You must keep My covenant—you and your descendants in the generations after you. This is My covenant with you and your descendants after you, which you are to keep: Every male among you must be circumcised. You are to circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and this will be a sign of the covenant between Me and you.
Generation after generation, every male must be circumcised when he is eight days old, including those born in your household and those purchased from a foreigner—even those who are not your offspring. Whether they are born in your household or purchased, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh will be an everlasting covenant.
But if any male is not circumcised, he will be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.”
So says “satan”.
Hehe…it’s just the jew/freemasons and their “social engineering” bringing them in.
Most everyone here knows that.
So, it does no good to blame and hate on the “immigrants” or “refuges”, because that plays into the jews hands too.
When they(jew-freemason occupied govs) deceitfully IMPOSE “multiculturalism” and race-mixing, then it is not a natural phenomenon, but a weapon of war.
(then suddenly the rainbows and butterflies and kumbyya and love and light platitudes and chants are seen as just so much deceitful bullshit).
They want the whole world to be their “Nation”, without any real “nations” within it to oppose their claimed “authority/supremacy”.
There aren’t really any “independent” nations anymore. There’s just window-dressing and political rhetoric that gives the illusion of such.
(the name of the “President” in Mexico is “Sheinbaum”. Really? A jew represents the people of Mexico? How? Unless the whole population has been judaized?)
You’re not supposed to consider that the “jews” are operating with a worldview hostile and destructive to any and all others.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
“We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.”
“There are two life-forces in the world I know: Jewish and gentile, ours and yours…I do not believe that this primal difference between gentile and Jew is reconcilable. You and we may come to an understanding, never to a reconciliation. There will be irritation between us as long as we are in intimate contact. For nature and constitution and vision divide us from all of you forever.” Maurice Samuel (1924)
re Howard Wright: “If you’ve decided it’s appropriate and acceptable to hurl (unfounded) accusations and racial insults at certain ethnic minorities”
Just a cotton pickin minute. Are you suggesting that some ethnic minority hygiene standards are on a par with what we are used to?
It’s all well and good to be polite and considerate but there is a phenomenal diversity of hygiene standards across the world’s cultures and within them. Acknowledging it is not a crime!
So sorry, but I wouldn’t like to see our hygiene standards being diluted by lesser imported ones, no matter how much I like some ethnic groups.
e.g. Take a walk along the shore of the Ganges, a tour of the slums in Calcutta or a trek in Africa or in some parts of Asia for a reality check.
See below link for some standards we should never import!
https://www.businessinsider.com/images-of-children-playing-in-garbage-2014-10?op=1
Let’s not pretend that all hygiene norms are equal and should have equal rights in Australia. Hygiene is not a racist concept. Get over the idea.
Howard Wright said,
“but just bear in mind Jase that our wonderful ‘pro freedom’ government has recently passed some draconian hate speech laws.
What you said there would certainly qualify as such (hate speech) and could, quite possibly result in you being prosecuted and fined”
The last cop I spoke to in Cape York shat his pants and fleed back to Brisbane leaving the Laura police station unattended for months.
Then I drove to Cooktown police station after being shot at on my property. The Cooktown police locked the front door and would not answer the phone.
So if you’re scared of the police Howard Wright, I’ll let you die on your knees.. but I’ll stand on my feet till the end.
re: “WHERE ARE ALL THE ARRESTS? WHERE ARE THE GITMO HANGINGS?”
Phew! Thank God for that, I thought I might have missed them. I’ll keep an eye out for them, shall I?
“And If I see something out of order I’ll speak up.”
Obviously, but just bear in mind Jase that our wonderful ‘pro freedom’ government has recently passed some draconian hate speech laws.
What you said there would certainly qualify as such (hate speech) and could, quite possibly result in you being prosecuted and fined thousands of $$, or even being sent to prison, if anyone who your rant was directed at happened to read it and complained.
You need to be very careful about what you say on these forums now, the vigilant ‘offence industry’s’ thought police are all over them.
Dennis said – “… So now only President Trump can and will save us from our stupid selves…”
You mean like he’s saving all those people from being slaughtered by his BFF Israel over there in Gaza?
Or like he saved us all with his “beautiful vaccines”?
And now he’s saving America by emptying all the store shelves and nuking all the supply chains with his “beautiful tariffs”?
And Trump has pushed the Pentagon’s budget OVER $1 TRILLION for the very first time?
And creepy Bill and all the rest are STILL all free as birds and merrily scheming Humanity’s extermination?
Well, okay, if you say so, but good luck with that.
Howard Wright, I don’t pretend to be savvy in writing or grammar, I left school at 14 and started work and paying tax in my country.
And If I see something out of order I’ll speak up.
“So now only President Trump can and will save us from our stupid selves.”
No Dennis, only YOU can save you from your stupid self, but you probably won’t while you cling so tightly to your asinine Trump delusion.
I don’t know how anyone can complain about immigrants taking over in Australia when so many people have no problem with what is happening in Gaza and even fully support them being pushed out of their land. And not just pushed, but starved and bombed and buried alive or mowed down by bulldozers, and wounded, and babies left to die because there is no power, and children used as target practice. And also forced to move constantly from one place to another when even the moving is unsafe. Like the Death Marches. Only difference is they weren’t bombed on the Death Marches.
And in all honesty, no wonder these immigrants want to leave their own country. Look what the West has done to them and their cultures.
Am I saying that I like what is happening in Australia. I don’t.
I am just trying to get some reality or honesty into the argument.
You can’t say it’s ok in another country but not in ours.
Pat:
“Even Editor, cairnsnews, bless his gnarly old heart, has been sipping the Trump Kool Aid.”
Sipping it? More like drowning himself in it!
“So why would the Australian government let inbreed desiesed people to spread desiese into Australia and let them work in the food industry 🤔?”
WOW… If you’ve decided it’s appropriate and acceptable to hurl (unfounded) accusations and racial insults at certain ethnic minorities, who have every right to be part of our population too, at least learn how to write properly and spell words correctly otherwise you’re only insulting your own intelligence.
And in case you’re wondering I do not represent any of those ethnicities you tried to denigrate – I’m 100% Australian Caucasian: born August 1958 and raised and properly educated in rural NSW.
Burn the Strawman said – “… Trump took up Judaism in 2016…”
… but no matter how many times you try to tell them, the Trump fans just can’t bring themselves to even consider it, let alone accept the cold hard Truth.
Even Editor, cairnsnews, bless his gnarly old heart, has been sipping the Trump Kool Aid. Seems the Truth is like something they stepped on the sidewalk, best to be scraping it off quick smart.
And Burn the Strawman said – “… WHERE ARE ALL THE ARRESTS? WHERE ARE THE GITMO HANGINGS?”
Exactly. Looks like we’ll be waiting another eight years for the real thing.
Pity about all the road kill along the way. A couple hundred thousand at least, so far here in Australia. I shudder to think what the next few years has in store for us.
Let’s not beat around the bush here, years ago (30) Chinese were flooding into Australia cities sucking up all small business as a migration tool, now the Indians are doing the same but in country towns and regional centres, has anyone noticed who is behind the counters and no customers but the shop is full of there family?
Watch the desiese like hepatitis go through the roof with Indians working in the food industry, colesworths central processing facilities is full on Indians cutting up your pre packed salads and fresh fruit & vegetables, cutting up uncooked meet, (Indians wipe there ass with there hand ✋️ 💩) this is not being racist, this is what they do, they spit constantly and are the least hygienic race on earth.
So why would the Australian government let inbreed desiesed people to spread desiese into Australia and let them work in the food industry 🤔?
100% correct “burn the strawman”.
Dennis…Watch this please. You are being deceived.
[https://rumble.com/v6t16kp-emergency-dont-watch-this-most-shocking-video-ever.html ]
Trump took up Judaism in 2016, which means he took up lying to Christians…Trump is not coming to save us. His Operation Warp speed is very much an enormous part of the Great Reset of our population.
Trump should hang if he ever steps foot on our soil. Warp speed allowed the skipping of animal trials which is a driect violation of article 3 of the Nuremburg code.
The love of my life is dead because of this monster and we have had enough of you people who give that criminal, one of the worst in history, a free pass…As President, the highest law enforcement office in the land…WHERE ARE ALL THE ARRESTS? WHERE ARE THE GITMO HANGINGS?
It is all a bloody psyop. Trump cabinet 2016-2020, full of Zionist Israeli/US duel citizens…Biden steals 2020…Has a cabinet full of Zionist Israeli/US duel citizens…Trump wins in 2024…Has a bloody cabinet chock-a-block of Israeli/US duel citizens…Watch this, stew Peters isn’t afraid to tell the truth! America is occupied by Zionist Israeli/US duel citizens. Trump is not any different, another puppet of Chabad Lubavitch, the Zionist cult…
‘Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer… and we are his chosen People’. Harold Rosenthal, 1976….Trump is a paid up member of Chabad Lubavitch.
John 8:44 ‘Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.’
45 ‘And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not’.
The truth Dennis, will set you free of the ‘Operation trust’ psyop, Look up Albert Pike’s letter from 1871…Look who Trumps mentor was, it was a 33rd degree Freemason. Not trying to hurt you…Let the lying bastard go. You too Ed.
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