By Lyndesy Symonds
Since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire (WWI), the Muslim nations and tribes have been fighting to secure their own territory which jihad, population eradications, transfers, terrorism and international gook forces have not helped.
Then there were the Jewish Ashkhenazi Turks who [fresh from their conquest of Russia]. They interrupted their genocide of the White, European ethnic Russians [Solzhenitsyn goes right into this] and went in to stake their claim in Palestine with Soviet backing under the Balfour Declaration.
The whole province of Palestine (which under the Ottoman was ruled from Damascus) and included the modern nations of Jordan, Israel and parts of Lebanon, Gaza, Nablus etc became a land of fiercest strife. Pretty much as it is today.
So the Ashkhenazi carved a Jewish state out of Palestine and the entire Muslim world is against this. And they are using the gulagged and helpless population of Gaza aka Palestinians as their spearhead and shield for a wider war that is The Warpot of the Middle East.
The Muslim religion is fundamentally hostile to Jews not just in Israel but all over the world. The Zionists (like Douglas Murray) are correct to point this out.
But What Does HAMAS Really Want!?….. Douglas Murray & Maajid Nawaz (live, on stage)
Dear Ms. Symonds,
The second paragraph of your post succinctly describes the problem. Allow me to boil it down further.
Except for having stolen the name, 1948 “Israel” is NOT in any way, shape or form related to Biblical Israel. Period!
@Pat from Vic and @zzz3856 – your geopoltical views are simplistic at best and it is good that you post here so that candid minds can read your statements see what rhetorical argument looks like.
Sadly, in Logic 101, rhetorical arguments fail the course.
Instead of facts, evidences, reference base etc. for a coherent position, you rely on name calling, semantics, invective and tirade. I would bet that neither one of you ever had to actually debate or construct any kind of an argument and argue it.
Since basic logic eludes both of you, the Go To is Socrates – the great enemy of rhetoric. In example, the biggest fool, the most drooling politute, the Numero Uno Zionist, the most insane Bolshevik, even the leader of the entire Cabal hell bent on a world soviet can announce : ‘the sun is shining’. This doesn’t make it dark outside.
This fact is established or not on grounds other than identity of the speaker. Learn to think.
Between the two pincers or ideological axes of the Great Revolution: Communism and Zionism, a coherent position based on understanding is needed. And neither of you two anti-Socratic thinkers is making any sort of a contribution here.
In Australia, what we need is an Australian nationalist position and a commitment to an Australian sovereignty and statehood that serves the Australian nation living on this continent.
The Communist position in this geopolitical conflict is taken up by Soviet Russia and the CCP – both joined at the hip and the BRICs power bloc which which is making war [ Sionistskiye Gosudarstva ] in the Middle East and working both diplomatically and financially for the final stage of Communism through the UN which (by definition) is global. This is the stage of the Revolution covered by Marx in The Kapital vol. 3 – which neither of you have read or would ever read.
The Zionist position is taken up by Israel. And the Zionists are pulling all the levers to get all the ZOGs owned by the Judaic central banking cartel onside with it. Unfortunately we, here in Australia, are a ZOG and our Australian nationalism is being folded into the Zionist position in this conflict. Stated simply, this is the moral right of Israel to eradicate a hostage population based upon what has been staged militarily to look like self defense against a jihadi Muslim authority which holds that population hostage against the Zionist state. A state which has gulagged them in the world’s largest open air concentration camp, I hasten to add.
In terms of any conflict, however developed, this is probably the lowest possible moral position conceivable. I concerns me that the the legitimate nationalism of all the ZOGs is getting folded into this position as certainly as the legitimate nationalism and anti-Communism of the German nation got folded into the genocidal Zionist agenda to annhilate Poland and eradicate assimilated, non Zionist Jews. The archetypal 6 million may not have died, but millions of them certainly did as Dr. David Irving [yes the Big Holocaust Denier] documents in his historical works.
And here is the kicker: the legitimate German nationalism will be forever branded with that association.
All Western nations (ZOGs) owned by the Judaic Supremacy must avoid these two pincers of their Great Revolution and hammer out a nationalist position.
At present, your contribution is Zero and Zero. Let’s lift our game, shall we.
Lindesymonds said – “Assad is in bed with the Kremlin and always has been.”
Russia is a Christian country and is not the USSR of the past. You spin the same lies as the MSM that you lack all credibility.
Lindesymonds said – “Assad is in bed with the Kremlin and always has been.”
And there’s the rub.
That nasty Kremlin is Hell-bent on taking over the world and turning it all into a One World Communist Empire, and Putin is evil personified, so Bashar al-Assad can only be another unrepentant mass-murdering Demon right alongside him.
By rights, both Putin and Assad should be sporting evil goatees and Fu Manchu moustaches. Maybe they DO in their secret meetings behind closed doors where they laugh maniacally and plot the conquest of Empires and torture kittens.
Sadly, your world-view appears to be so twisted and contorted with inertial bias that there’s no helping you. Maybe in 100 years’ time you’ll have caught up with the 1990’s.
Would that Australia had someone of Assad’s moral stature at the Helm, along with a REAL CHRISTIAN ally like Russia.
Perish the thought.
Joe Bogan… I think Russia knew the West was trying to destabilise the Middle East – the OBR passes (or will pass) through the Middle East as well – something the West wants to stop.
Syria asked for Russia’s help – unlike the illegal US occupiers who are still stealing Syrian oil and causing havoc with their created IS and others of that ilk in the area. They are like a pestilence in the Middle East, even Iraq cannot get rid of them.
I say well done Russia – Syria did the right thing.
If Assad was not in bed with the Kremlin he would cease to exist. Russia likes to keep Turkiye in the pincers so Assad is safe.
Daily Fatwa: Pro-Palestinian Muslim and UNDRIP cadres have vandalised the Vietnam War Memorial of the Australian veterans telling us ‘The Colony will fall’. Obviously they do not regard Australia as national sovereignty, rather a Dar al-Harb / colonial regime.
Well, what about Palestine and Israel – both carved out of the Ottoman Caliphate in the crack up of that empire. The Palestines became colonies of a new Muslim hegemon and Israel a colony of the Khazarian Turks. So whose colony are they talking about.
We should in no way stand for any form of ‘Islamisation’ from the Pro-Palestinian wing of the Long March.
The Netherlands which is convulsed by Muslim insurrections on a daily basis has swept Geert Wilders PVV to power. Here is his address to a US audience.
For the Marxist Tag Team on the Messageboard – he gets into Islamisation at 5.16.
@Pat from Vic. Assad is in bed with the Kremlin and always has been.
Human Rights organisations across the world called the Syrian ‘civil war’ (SIG Operation) and his democides are common knowledge as are those of the SIG Assets: ISIS, IS, DAESH and the rest of the Gook alphabet soup.
That he got himself elected means about as much as the Biden landslide.
You disagree. Fine. Give us some counter evidence for your position. As it stands you are labeling opinions you don’t like with Marxist rhetoric like ‘reds under beds’, ‘anti-semitic cannard’, Russo-phobic, Islamophobic, etc.
I merely point this out.
Pat from Vic… Have to agree with you 100%.. Which planet is lindesymonds living on? Totally out of touch with what is really going on in the world – totally brainwashed by the West.
Absolutely agree about President Assad, he is one of the most loved leaders by his people in the world.
As for the Uigurs, that is Western propaganda too. What the media reported there about mosques and buildings destroyed etc are rubbish – the photos show are all there and the tourists say its peaceful there.
lindesymonds says “…a gulagged population in the world’s largest open air concentration camp held hostage and used as human shields by their own government” – the only thing you got right in this comment is that Gaza is the largest open air concentration camp – the rest is rubbish..
Pat from Vic — “The fact that you’ve ONCE AGAIN swallowed the American Neocon and Israeli Kool-Aid and willingly spout their propaganda destroys any desire to entertain whatever else you might have to say.” Spot on.
As for this being a religious war, I say – follow the money! The US is broke, it needs another war – they need to steal more resources from somewhere.. As for Israel, it is in the hands of a psycho.. even the Jewish people know that.
Lindesymonds said – “Where wer all the Muslims across the Western world demonstrating FOR their fellow Muslims when Assad and ISIS was killing them?”
Well now you’ve lost just about any shred of credibility you might have had remaining. Never mind your well-established penchant for finding Reds under every bed.
President Assad is demonstrably a THOROUGHLY GOOD man, who has the overwhelming support of the Syrian people. The fact that you’ve ONCE AGAIN swallowed the American Neocon and Israeli Kool-Aid and willingly spout their propaganda destroys any desire to entertain whatever else you might have to say.
There is no doubt that the popular sympathy is with the people of Gaza – a gulagged population in the world’s largest open air concentration camp held hostage and used as human shields by their own government.
This resonates across the world with nations post the UN CoVID operation as people realise the extent to which they were taken hostage by the global coup d’etat. [That probably should be WHO d’etat and the operation that it ran with the depts of defense of member nations to inject the world population with a bioweapon]
That sympathy should not extend to the Muslim world, their Palestinian ‘front’ and their jihadi terrorist Gook militaries – Gooks of Iran and Soviet / Russia.
Where wer all the Muslims across the Western world demonstrating FOR their fellow Muslims when Assad and ISIS was killing them?
https://euaa.europa.eu/country-guidance-syria-2023/812-muslim-brotherhood-uprising-syria-1979-1982-which-comprised-hama-massacre-february-1982
Did the streets erupt then?
Or what about when the CP of China begins [as it continues to do to this day] to intern Uighur Muslims and use them for the organ harvesting combine that it has going with Iran and Israel? What about that? One would expect hear from ‘the Muslim world’ on this subject and for them to take to the streets in the way they have taken to the streets over the Muslim human shields in Gaza.
I can only conclude that these massive demonstrations that we are seeing on the streets of Western nations are anti-Zionist rallies, marches, protests etc. These demonstrations are led by Palestinian Muslims and enfold the usual cadres from Central Casting.
Both Islam and Zionism fuel their genocidal campaigns against the Western European nations with religious rhetoric and mandates. Why would a Western nation [even a ZOG] take a side in a combat that on both sides has a genocidal objective?
That ZOG actor Biden would seem to see to other course of action but to send weapons to Israel and bread to Palestine
I didn’t read this story until now because it’s just a depressing genocide, the Zionists want the offshore oil & gas near north Gaza, while Hamas is an agency of Israel, doesn’t have to be more than 51% controlled to do its job.
For the Khazarian Mafia, history is full of lies, concealing the prehistory of 5000 years ago, I don’t know why but I’m sure the bloodlines do.
“Australian” is not a race or a religion, it is a package of Aborigines, Poms, Europeans, Asians and basically anyone with a citizenship certificate.
Jews were packaged out of various Hebrews, diasporated Euro-Judaists, KM and whatever else could be included as a human shield for KM activities. The KM and affiliates let us know by their symbols, they are Egyptian, from Ptolemy. A folded out pyramid in plan view is a Maltese Cross, etc. They put up Cleopatra’s Needles everywhere they can to symbolise their success at killing off everyone else who is not in their KM Freemason bloodlines etc “big club”. The Egyptian empire never disappeared except from view, the Roman empire followed suit, and Charlemagne was next cab off the rank. THEY ARE ALL STILL GOING.
https://gumshoenews.com/black-gold-under-the-ice/
Aussiemal said – “In my opinion this whole shebang is caused by religion.”
You got that right. One specific religion starting with “S” and ending in “SATANISM” seems to be at the core of our present tribulations, whether being slaughtered by the Master Race in Gaza or “fighting for democracy” in Ukraine or butchering newborn babies in Australia or being poisoned and exterminated across the globe by a pack of Luciferian Globalist psychopaths.
Matter of fact, the character involved in THAT particular belief system is arguably at the crux of ALL the mayhem afflicting Mankind right from the beginning. From a philosophical point of view, that’s an UNAVOIDABLE consequence of Humanity’s own flight from Oblivion. Wheels within wheels.
And FWIW, it doesn’t matter whether or not WE subscribe to THEIR beliefs – because THEY DO, and they’re so very determined to KILL US ALL.
Aussiemal said – “There is no proof that any god ever existed or created life of man or animal.”
Of course, “proof” is ultimately subjective, and we have the freedom to choose. We have no proof that the Man in the Moon exists, but that doesn’t exclude the possibility of him actually being there. A rather well-worn saying is that the best trick Satan ever pulled was convincing everyone that he doesn’t exist.
Meanwhile, FWIW, it’s rather easier for people to accept a larger reality after encountering some of the characters therefrom or witnessing inexplicable things. Much harder for people trapped in the sterile crucible of a mechanistic world, especially when our opportunity to explore is so chaotic and short. Point being that “reality” is subjective – we generally only get to see a little piece of it.
zzz3856: “This is no longer about Hamas… I don’t think it ever really was…”
Of course not. It’s a much, much bigger project than carving out a political sanctuary for a “homesick” Ashkenazi diaspora.
This is no longer about Hamas… I don’t think it ever really was… Report by Eva Bartlett reported on the ground in Syria..
https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2024/03/11/israel-is-now-killing-palestinians-in-gaza-by-starvation-media-downplaying-this-are-complicit-in-these-preventable-deaths/
In my opinion this whole shebang is caused by religion. There is no proof that any god ever existed or created life of man or animal. If anybody comes up with the argument that somebody or something had to have created what we are, my question is who or what created this god?
Yet most of man’s hostilities towards one another are because of the various differences of opinions about religion. If we forgot about religion and just lived as decent beings using our conscience before taking action the world would be a much more peaceful place.
? Ed
Time’s Person of the Year: Greta Thunberg has now come out as a Hamas fan girl. Climate Nutter Cult has now morphed.
In the New Normal: Only ‘from the river to the sea’ will deliver Climate justice.
All of these Marxist Long Marchers are Popular Front cadres on the Open Borders payroll.
The post on the messageboard by the Editor did not use quotation marks as most posters do if quoting someone else’s words. The post sounded like lindesymonds talking using the editor’s name which I thought unusual.
The Fitzpatrick Informer is clearly a Russophobic site and this seemed to me to be completely out of character for the Editor to use and quote from.
Regarding WWIII – IMHO this will be instigated by the US/Israel should it come to that because this is what they have always wanted. Muslim countries have lived in pace and harmony with everyone until Israel came into being.
Hezbollah are only retaliating to strikes by Israel on their territory. Israel is also striking Syria and other places as well.
I am disappointed to see the Editor not speaking for himself but copying others comments as his own, especially when in the past his comments seem to have differed from your outdated Bolshevik views.
End of subject.
@zzz3856. I did write to the CN Editors and speak to my comment which they chose to feature as a post. I am glad they thought some points I made would comment would move foreward the debate / discussion on the Messageboard.
In his comment to the CN Comment Section the Editor did use some facts and references I made in my reply to this post which the CN editors have chosen to feature.
Israel’s war against Hamas and Hezbollah [Iran] is a Major Topic. And it is in the Australian interest to get the geo-politics right in terms of an Australian position that reflects our national interest.
To date both the Palestinian Authority and the Zionist state have rejected the two state solution many times. Neither the Muslim / Palestinian position: ‘from the river to the sea’ or Israeli Samson Option and right to self defense by eradicating a gulagged population held hostage by the Hamas government should reflect an Australian position – which is emerging.
Hence, this discussion.
It is fair use for the CN Editors to take on board some points / facts of my communication to them if they agree with them as op-ed and they think these points address both the featured post and comments on the message board. This is an editorial decision.
Fair use is in place to advance understanding, education, debate and discussion which is much needed on this topic. I am glad the CN editors have taken some of these points on board for discussion and development.
As I write, Hezbollah is shelling Israel from the North and the Israeli authorities have evacuated their own citizens. The gulagged Palestinians on the other hand must front the Muslim jihad against Israel / Jews as human shields.
This conflict has every potential to blow up into World War III.
“Kind of like the Hell’s Angels riding in one sunny Spring day and taking over your neighborhood.”
More like a Charles Manson crew coming in and redecorating your house.
carolismyusername said – “I’d rather be a hostage of Hamas than a Palestinian prisoner in an Israeli gaol.”
Wise words, and true.
Either way, it’s the mass-murdering psychopathic Israeli regime that will kill you.
I’d rather be a hostage of Hamas than a Palestinian prisoner in an Israeli gaol. Children are raped and tortured by Israel’s guards. A book that should be read is The Sampson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal & American Foreign Policy by Seymour Hersh. Maybe the supporters of Israel’s genocide might wake up.
kuckcrusher… Sounds like you have been totally brainwashed by msm progaganda about October 7. It is now well known by many that the IDF killed most of their own people, not Hamas.. There were no rapes, no baby beheadings or anything of the kind by Hamas.
Same goes for Bronco.. the hostages were taken to exchange for the thousands of innocents held in Israeli jails. Those hostages released were very well treated and hugged their keepers in farewell when exchanged. Bibi will not hold cease fire to release the rest and his bombings have even killed some of them, not to mention killing those who came out holding white flags.
Anyone (including governments) who takes the side of Israel is in fact supporting genocide. The fact is that over 30,000 are dead and many more unaccounted for – half of these are CHILDREN. Bibi’s so called payback has gone well beyond that and is called intentional murder.
Turn off the idiot box and do some independent research.
Bronco – “Hamas never had a country…”
Yeah, that’s right, because Hamas is Israel’s baby, nurtured and suckled to do it’s bidding right from the start.
And everyone KNOWS that “Israel” isn’t a “country”, it’s just a collection of mass-murdering baby-eating Satanic Master Race genocidal psychopaths who turned up one day, killed everyone they could find, and took over the joint.
Kind of like the Hell’s Angels riding in one sunny Spring day and taking over your neighborhood. Except the Hell’s Angels actually have SOME redeeming values.
And they want YOU dead too. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
“the Arabs have plenty of places to go. Yet they speak almost unanimously for driving Israelis into the sea.”
Ahem, pay attention to what’s going on, son. The Arabs are on the losing side for the last 100 years ever since the British Empire issued the Balfour Declaration to the Rothschild Empire on how things are going to be.
https://aijac.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/lying-map-1068×706.jpeg
“It’s QUITE CLEAR that these Arab/Moslem/ Palirats don’t deserve their own country and should not be given their own country”
I say, Bibi, did Abraham tell you the one about his camel ride from Babylon to the Land of Canaan and the takeover of the Phoenician Canaanites by the Babylonian kabbalists? lol
Hamas never had a country, Brianajnz! OK? …. Do you understand that? …Hmmmm? …………Hmmmmmmmmmm?… I mean …really?
And even more importantly, after the way these Araby-wackjobs and Muzzy-weirdos have been acting …the rapes and killings, hideous tortures, slaughter of teens in bathrooms and shelters, the pizza-joint bombings and plane hijackings etc and all going back till1920 when they (FIRST) started mutilating Jews, It’s QUITE CLEAR that these Arab/Moslem/ Palirats don’t deserve their own country and should not be given their own country and under no circumstances should they have access to the weapons of moderm millitary and their own legitimate army that a real country would have.
We better all hope that they NEVER have their own country.
Basically it makes no difference who the Jews are, if they are fake or not. That is not the issue. They do live in, and own, the land called Israel and they are not going anywhere because they have no place to go. And they have nukes! Get that through your head.
On Contrast, the Arabs have plenty of places to go. Yet they speak almost unanimously for driving Israelis into the sea.
The fact is that there IS NO SOLUTION here.
And all the above is the BOTTOM LINE:
So as I was saying, no one here is even mentioning the Arab/Moslem held Israeli hostages and the depravities committed on a thousand Israelis. It shows me they are not capable of rationality when it comes to this subject.
I say – Until, the hostages are released and Hamas turns themselves in to be tried and punished for their crimes —- Keep bombing Bibi! —–
If my wife was a hostage I kill every last dirty desert-rat to get her back. And if wouldn’t also do that then you are no man at all.
Further, I’d like to commend the Cairns News Editor for once again taking the correct stand and not allowing Cairns News into being pegged into one hole or the other.
” And (hint. hint) the peak entity in the Masonic tabernacle is Allah!!! ”
Oh, yeah? The Grand Architect of Solomon’s Temple? No siree, bob.
Sorry Editor.. but I don’t buy all that at all. You sound like lindesymonds talking..? And that Fitzpatrick Informer link – is it a joke or what?
And Australia IS already involved in the war there.. the RAAF is there.
This post does not dispute that Israel created Hamas.
https://swprs.org/why-israel-created-hamas/
It does not dispute the wider Soviet backing to the regime change wars in the Middle East for Zionist governments.
https://fitzinfo.net/2019/01/14/the-kremlin-directs-the-anti-zionist-movement-on-behalf-of-israel/
It does not dispute that Islam is the Broom of Israel [Judaism]
https://archive.org/details/you-will-have-no-place-to-run.-islam-is-the-broom-of-israel.-rabbi-rav-touitou
What it does attempt to do is to set out facts of matter that are historically self-evident and that both sides of the conflict prefer to remain unmentionable.
It is indisputable that the Quran sees Islam as bringing about the ‘end of times’ and the Prophet directs the Believers to kill the Jews.
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/223275/in-the-battle-between-the-jews-and-the-muslims-at-the-end-of-time-the-aggressors-will-be-the-jews. And they see the Jews as the aggressors.
This is a religious text that frames up the Islamic side of this genocidal war as a religious obligation.
Douglas Murray is a Zionist and Jew but that does not make him wrong on his point about Islam – about what Islam believes fundamentally – here narrated in a way that will enable everyone to ‘get it’.
But Liberals, anti-Western Marxists, Queers for Palestine, UNDRIP Long Marchers etc who are defending the warfare of Islam do not ‘get it’. They are defending an Islamic position for genocide. And this is exactly on the same level as the Ashkhenazi who are conducting a genocide against that part of the Palestinian population currently gulagged in Gaza.
The Palestinian people in Gaza are in the cross hairs of a genocidal war that is joined from both the Muslim and Jewish sides, fueled with religous zeal from both sides with the potential to drag in both the West and the Communist Bloc. The Hamas Leadership will watch this spectacle from Qatar – not Gaza.
The message here for Australia is clear. This is not our war. Stay out of this Warpot. We do not want religious wars of genocide here.
“Hell has way more lawyers than Heaven.”
Yes, but where is the jury with its verdict? MIA, mostly?
Lindesy: I f you know who the Freemasons are (and anyone wearing a pale blue necktie in the public arena, anywhere, is telling you they are a Mason) then this article should be of interest and also explain a lot:
http://part2.isawthelightministries.com/shriners.html
And then you might see why all these lawyers are behind this(Islamic?) LEGAL effort to charge Albo with crimes against whomever over Gaza.
And (hint. hint) the peak entity in the Masonic tabernacle is Allah!!!
daviddd2 said – “… I am advised that the said god should be subpoenaed in this territorial dispute in order to explain and justify why the descendants of the original Canaanite owners are precluded from any land restitution rights…”
Good luck with that.
Hell has way more lawyers than Heaven.
What does Hamas want? Presumably to retrieve Canaan from the alleged descendants of the Israelite tribes who originally took it from the Canaanites in 2000BC and then lost it and scattered across the Globe to again capture it 2000 years later from the resident inhabitants…. Ostensibly on the basis of Lord Balfour’s Declaration and the 1948AD “Western” nations determination to create a “sanctuary” for the alleged “survivors” of the Israelite tribes and built on the premise that ONE of the MANY gods in human history reputedly “promised” Canaan to the multi millenial descendants of the Israelites in “divine perpetuity”.
I am advised that the said god should be subpoenaed in this territorial dispute in order to explain and justify why the descendants of the original Canaanite owners are precluded from any land restitution rights and why they appear to be subject to prima facie evidence of Divine Prejudice and Racism.
As it currently stands, it appears we may have a clear cut case of pro “Ashkenazism ” and anti Canaanism inspired by the one God who has eliminated all other gods and appears to have captured control over most of humanity’s spiritual welfare? Except for Satan, of course.
Well said Carol, Pat, Tonyryan, Nicola.. and most others.. The Muslims are not the problem, and never were. The West is trying to scapegoat Hamas… well, its not working. It has become clear to a lot more people now who the real terrorists and warmongers are… the millions of anti-Israel protests worldwide show this – which of course the msm does not show or talk about.
Israel should not be there. It was never their land and it never will be.
OMG what a poor article! No understanding of history, no knowledge about what Hamas really is, no knowledge about what intifada is, what happened in Palestine for the last 75 years, the settlers…. you could actually sum the author’s opinion up: if it’s Muslim it’s bad. I like Cairns news because you tell about what’s happening in Australia (sometimes) but please don’t try writing articles on geopolitics out honestly, there are much better sources.
It looks like I’m pretty much obsolete here. Carol and co have done the job for me.
Anybody who thinks this war is by Islam is doddering. Those of us smart enough to recognise that Scott Ritter has walked this beat longer than any other, and has worked with Mossad, CIA, Marines, DOD, and UN, would also know he confirmed that the Hamas we see fighting the US/IDF is an entirely different entity to the old version that the Mossad infiltrated so successfully, as it did the PLO.
I note that the new generation of Resistance (Mikaela Ersog and Gisela Cernadas), indivisible from BRICS, now refers to us as the ‘Supporters of Humanity’, open acknowledgement that religion and ideology come second and third.
Some people are chained to 1950. A bit of rust is to be expected.
Carol said – “Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side with no issues until the British colonized Palestine…”
Yes, and it’s the same in Syria. The poisonous hand of Empire, dividing, conquering, raping and pillaging.
Strange that the so-called “Jews” in that nasty little Luciferian state that likes to call itself “Israel” are so very DIFFERENT to their peaceful forebears. Seems they’re determined to terrorize, rape, starve, torture and kill EVERYONE until they’re the only ones left.
Carol also said – “Israel doesn’t have the right to exist.”
… and the way things are headed, they WON’T for very much longer.
Then the world can breathe a righteous sigh of relief.
Seems to be a lot of assertions about what “the Muslims” believe and so forth, both in the headline article and here in the forum.
We perhaps shouldn’t overlook the detail that Hamas, along with that naughty Al Quaeda and all those blood-thirsty head-chopping Isis terrorists, are all proxies created, recruited, trained, paid, equipped and directed variously by the USA and Israel.
History can be difficult to unravel, of course, but a certain Jewish chap DID say “You shall know them by their deeds”. Not to mention “Do unto others as you would unto yourself”.
I’m biased to favour the Muslim people, just BTW, mainly because that nasty little genocidal state that likes to call itself “Israel” has emphatically and thoroughly demonstrated it’s alleged Master Race credentials and utter disregard for the sanctity and dignity of ANY human life aside from themselves. They train their soldiers by killing Palestinian men, women, children and babies for FUN, and would gladly use YOU for blood sport too, if the opportunity presented itself.
In a nutshell, the Israeli Zionists are a festering nest of Satan-worshipping psychopaths who think they own the world and everything on and in it, and regard EVERYONE ELSE besides them as “little more than livestock fit for slaughter”.
But that’s just my opinion.
It would be instructive to have some Muslims provide THEIR perspective on the subject here in these forums, although one hardly needs to be of ANY particular faith to recognise premeditated mass murder and genocide of innocent people.
We know what the freedom fighters/Hamas wants and we know what the US/Israel/ Zionists want. The west has made Muslim the topic of Gaza and quite blatantly ignore the fact that Christians also live in Palestine. Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side with no issues until the British colonized Palestine more than 76 yrs ago then signed the Balfour declaration to eradicate the Palestinians from their land. Israel doesn’t have the right to exist.
Apocrypha — Esdras 6:9 …”For Esau is the end of this age, and Jacob is the beginning of the age that follows”
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/the-struggle-for-the-birthright/chapter-7-the-conflict/
The Jews are of Esau from Idumea, and therefore not of Israel or Judah; Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925, vol. 5, page 41
Revelation 3:9,”Behold, I give out of the synagogue of Satan those saying themselves to be Jews, and they are not, but they lie. Behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they shall know that I loved you.”
The Controversy of Zion
This controversy is one of the major themes of Scripture throughout history. It appears again in Ezekiel 35, 36, where we find that the descendants of Esau-Edom (or Idumea) coveted the land and rejoiced when Israel and Judah went into captivity. Divine judgment is thus pronounced “against all Edom, who appropriated My land for themselves as a possession” (Ezekiel 36:5).
Isaiah 34:8, KJV, calls it “the controversy of Zion,” speaking of divine judgment against Edom. Historically, about 126 B.C. the Judean leader, John Hyrcanus, conquered Idumea (Edom) and forced them to convert to Judaism. Josephus wrote about this and concluded by saying, “they were hereafter no other than Jews” (Antiquities of the Jews, XIII, ix, 1). The Jewish Encyclopedia says “from this time the Idumeans ceased to be a separate people,” for they were absorbed into Jewry. This meant that the prophecies of Judah and Edom were bound together.
1948
Malachi 1:1-4 prophesies of this controversy, showing the Zionist motives of Esau. Verse 4 says,
4 Though Edom says, “We have been beaten down, but we will return and build up the ruins”; thus says the Lord of hosts, “They may build, but I will tear down; and men will call them the wicked territory, and the people toward whom the Lord is indignant forever.”
This is a prophecy of modern Zionism in the past century. The spirit of Edom has worked within world Jewry, saying, “we will return.” God does not refute this, but says only that “I will tear down.” If Edom had not returned and rebuilt the ruins, God would have nothing to tear down, so the establishment of the Israeli state was inevitable.
The establishment of the Israeli state was the fulfillment of Isaac’s blessing upon Esau, for at that time Esau received the dominion and took the birthright name Israel for itself………….
We are now transitioning into the Age to come, and at the appropriate time, Christ will return to give authority to the overcomers.
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2014/11-2014/the-looming-controversy/
WORLD CONQUEST THROUGH WORLD JEWISH GOVERNMENT
THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION
PROTOCOL No. 3
“1. To-day I may tell you that our goal is now only a few steps off. There remains a small space to cross and the whole long path we have trodden is ready now to close its cycle of the Symbolic Snake, by which we symbolize our people. When this ring closes, all the States of Europe will be locked in its coil as in a powerful vice.”
Matthew 23:31-33Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of the grave?
Agree that a section of Hamas is controlled and funded by Israel, but not all.
I think the majority of Hamas want the thousands of innocents in Israeli jails released and they want to live in Palestine in peace and freedom. Simple.
The Zionists of today were the same as the Sadducees of biblical times (as per definition by google) – who were apparently a vicious and murderous ruling theocratic sect who murdered thousands of Jewish Rabbis according to Jewish scholars. The seizure and execution of Jesus was part of a wider and uniform purge by the Sadducees of all the Jewish rabbis or religious leaders who in any way challenged their monopoly of power. They were a violent bloodthirsty mafia… just as we are seeing today – except its not just the Jews. (mentioned in a book called A New Science of Heaven.)
What Hamas wants, is what it does right now. The same with Hezbollah. So, again, this is not a war. It is what we see happening.
Muslim’s fight for Muslim territory, but from a religious aspect – most other religions fight for their country and for what their country expects from them. It is a big difference and Holy Warriors are always more fearsome, than those who fight for “freedom”, because the Muslim’s are fighting for their faith and what they believe they get in the afterlife, said to be 16 black eyed virgins – If I were a Muslim, that would be an incentive for me to fight too.
We need to ask Mossad.
This post does not dispute that Israel created Hamas.
https://swprs.org/why-israel-created-hamas/
It does not dispute the wider Soviet backing to the regime change wars in the Middle East for Zionist governments.
https://fitzinfo.net/2019/01/14/the-kremlin-directs-the-anti-zionist-movement-on-behalf-of-israel/
It does not dispute that Islam is the Broom of Israel [Judaism]
https://archive.org/details/you-will-have-no-place-to-run.-islam-is-the-broom-of-israel.-rabbi-rav-touitou
What it does attempt to do is to set out facts of matter that are historically self-evident and that both sides of the conflict prefer to remain unmentionable.
It is indisputable that the Quran sees Islam as bringing about the ‘end of times’ and the Prophet directs the Believers to kill the Jews.
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/223275/in-the-battle-between-the-jews-and-the-muslims-at-the-end-of-time-the-aggressors-will-be-the-jews. And they see the Jews as the aggressors.
This is a religious text that frames up the Islamic side of this genocidal war as a religious obligation.
Douglas Murray is a Zionist and Jew but that does not make him wrong on his point about Islam – about what Islam believes fundamentally – here narrated in a way that will enable everyone to ‘get it’.
But Liberals, anti-Western Marxists, Queers for Palestine, UNDRIP Long Marchers etc who are defending the warfare of Islam do not ‘get it’. They are defending an Islamic position for genocide. And this is exactly on the same level as the Ashkhenazi who are conducting a genocide against that part of the Palestinian population currently gulagged in Gaza.
The Palestinian people in Gaza are in the cross hairs of a genocidal war that is joined from both the Muslim and Jewish sides, fueled with religous zeal from both sides with the potential to drag in both the West and the Communist Bloc. The Hamas Leadership will watch this spectacle from Qatar – not Gaza.
The message here for Australia is clear. This is not our war. Stay out of this Warpot. We do not want religious wars of genocide here.
The Palestinian resistance went into Israel on October 7 to get their thousands of Palestinian people including children in Israeli prisons free, That’s what Hamas has said and still insists.
Well considering Hamas were created by the Israeli govt, armed with US weapons smuggled through places like Afghanistan and Ukraine, and are still funded and controlled at an operational level by the Israeli Govt to this day… the real question is “What does the Israeli Govt really want”
To fuck off the Khazarian mafia like the rest of us
Oh dear we have never met Mr Murray. The only Jews we know of are the Melbourne Liebler family. Editor
Cat. Add Shlomo Sand & Gilad Atzmon to your list.
Douglas Murray is wrong considering the Israel & West were behind ISIS.
What does Hamas really want?
They want their country back.
Douglas Murray? Is that the best you can dredge up from the detritus of pseudo intellectual commentary? That appalling genocide apologist and Zionist sycophant with some of the arse and all of the hole! Telling that you’ve not named the leading Jewish Israeli experts like Ilan Pappé, Gideon Levy from Haaretz media, Gabor Maté, Prof Norman Finkelstein, Edward Said, then Christopher Hutchins, the late Robert Fisk and our own Anthony Loewenstein. I would rather suck on a wasp than listen to Murray.
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