By MICHAEL SLOVANOS
POPULAR Christian interpretation of the Book of Revelation for much of the past century has its prophetic messaging being fulfilled “some time in the near future”. Hal Lindsey, the late author of the 1970s New York Times best seller “The Late Great Planet Earth”, proposed it being fulfilled within his own generation.
The video features Steve Gregg, who, while attending the Calvary Chapel megachurch in Costa Mesa, California in the 1970s, was an ardent teacher of this biblical view known as dispensationalist premillennialism or futurism. But Gregg later changed his view and speaks across the US expounding a much broader interpretation with more focus on actual historical context.
In addition to dispensationalism, the three other basic interpretive systems are idealism, historicism and preterism. They all come within the topic of study known as eschatology.
Gregg is now a leading critic of dispensationalism, the doctrine or teaching that was developed by Anglo-Irish clergyman John Nelson Darby in the mid-1800s, taken up by the Moody (Chicago) and Dallas theological seminaries and popularised by Cyrus Scofield’s Reference Bible first published in 1907 by Oxford University Press.
Scofield, a disgraced lawyer and politician (convicted and jailed for forgery) turned to preaching after his apparent conversion in 1879. He became strongly influenced by Darby’s dispensationalism as taught at Moody and Dallas, and was directly influenced by the Zionist movement of the late 1800s. One of his associates at the exclusive Lotos (literary) Club in New York was the very wealthy lawyer Samuel Untermeyer, who identified as a Zionist.
According to Prof. David W. Lutz, In “Unjust War Theory: Christian Zionism and the Road to Jerusalem,” “Untermeyer used Scofield, a Kansas City lawyer with no formal training in theology, to inject Zionist ideas into American Protestantism. Untermeyer and other wealthy and influential Zionists whom he introduced to Scofield promoted and funded the latter’s career, including travel in Europe.”
Scofield went on to make contact with the Oxford University Press publisher Henry Frowde, a member of the Exclusive Brethren sect, who supported the idea of a Bible featuring marginal notes based on dispensationalist teaching.
Dispensationalism has now morphed into a movement known as Christian Zionism, as expouned primarily by the Texas televangelist John Hagee who says the US must bless Israel or be cursed. Similar views are held in many other American and global Christian denominations.
Christian Zionism is one of the major reasons for the one-eyed pro-Israel foreign policy of the US Republican Party including that of President Donald Trump. The belief is of course, fully exploited by the America-Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC).
In that respect the challenge to dispensationalist teaching in the American (and global) church has political signficance. Tucker Carlson highlighted the belief in a recent clash with US Congressman Ted Cruz.
Gregg’s lecture (Part 1) includes: Introduction to the Book of Revelation • Unique nature of Revelation compared to other biblical and worldly literature • Three genres: epistle, prophecy, and apocalypse Revelation as an Epistle • Seven churches addressed: Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, Laodicea • Structure mirrors typical epistles: • Written to address specific issues in these first-century churches, with broader applicability to all churches.
Revelation as a Prophecy • Defined as an inspired utterance from the Holy Spirit (Revelation 1:3) • Unlike other epistles, it is explicitly called a prophecy • Prophecies serve to: • Validate the prophet’s authenticity through fulfilled predictions • Provide credentials for the speaker, not just to satisfy curiosity • Similar to Old Testament prophets, it mixes preaching with predictions to affirm divine authorship Revelation as an Apocalypse • Named “Apocalypse” in Greek, meaning unveiling or revealing • Shares characteristics with other apocalyptic literature (e.g., Daniel, Zechariah, intertestamental works like Enoch)
Features of apocalyptic literature: • Symbolic, sensational imagery (e.g., lamb with seven eyes, beast with seven heads) • Often anonymous or pseudonymous authorship in other works, but Revelation is authentically by John • Non-literal interpretation emphasized due to symbolic nature • Comparison to an intertestamental apocalyptic prologue to Esther: • Describes events symbolically (e.g., dragons, rivers) that represent historical events • Helps understand Revelation’s symbolic depiction of real events
Timing and Historical Context: • Repeated emphasis on imminent fulfillment: “things which must shortly take place” (Revelation 1:1), “the time is near” (Revelation 1:3), “do not seal the words… for the time is at hand” (Revelation 22:10) • Contrasts with Daniel’s sealed prophecy (Daniel 12:4, 12:9), indicating long-term fulfillment • Suggests events relevant to first-century readers, likely linked to the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 •
A pivotal event: • Roman destruction of the temple, ending temple Judaism • Fulfills Jesus’ prophecies (e.g., Luke 19, Luke 21) and Old Testament themes Interpretive Views of Revelation
Preterist View: ▪ Prophecies fulfilled in the past, primarily around AD 70 (destruction of Jerusalem) ▪ Partial Preterism: Most of Revelation fulfilled in AD 70, but future events (second coming, resurrection) remain ▪ Full Preterism (considered heretical): All prophecies, including second coming, fulfilled by AD 70
Futurist View: ▪ Prophecies to be fulfilled in the future, post-rapture (popular among modern evangelicals)
Historicist View: ▪ Chronicles church history from John’s time to the end, held by Reformers (Luther, Calvin)
Idealist View: ▪ Symbolic depiction of timeless spiritual truths (e.g., God’s sovereignty, spiritual warfare) ▪ Not tied to specific historical events, akin to Pilgrim’s Progress
I’ve just gotten around to watching the first 3 thirds.
Wow, what a garrulous load of nonsense. The useful information could be given in less than 5 minutes. If you want a down to earth interpretation, look at David Wilcoxson’s videos, or more garrulous and entertaining, watch Walter Veith’s, ignoring his SDA doctrines though.
Greg says “Did anything happen soon after 97AD – no, he answers. Oh boy, but I don’t want to write a book, but maybe the Cretian emperors of Trajan and his sons fulfill the white horse, or maybe it’s Christ and the Gospel going out.
Christ says ” These things must shortly come to pass.” In other words they would start soon and be fulfilled over the next almost 2000 years. The 10 horned kingdoms arose 476AD with the fall of the Roman empire, and another little horn arose before whom 3 kingdoms fell, and of course the rest submitted too. In 538AD. pope Vigilius was installed by Emperor Justinian as Definer of Doctrines and Corrector of Heresies. The Islamic conquest 638-788 fulfill the first Woe, the150 year Arab Islamic conquest. 788-1529 fulfills the second woe, the Ottoman Islamic conquests.
I could go on, but I don’t want to spoil Steve’s efforts.
Haha…we’re already in The Kingdom of Heaven=Reality=GOD’S Perfection.
All the bullshit that tries to deny that or obscure that only sustains the illusion/dreamworld that is the opposite.
This TINY part of The Greater(undeceived) consciousness decided it wanted something “different”, and put itself into a trance state and applied it’s will to “create” “something different”, a “different reality”.
Why? Maybe because it asked GOD for something GOD cannot give? There’s lots of different reasons, but they all are sourced from an original cause, and no matter what it is; this consciousness remains eternally innocent. And completely loving and lovable: AS GOD CREATED IT FOR ETERNITY.
The fact is, we cannot escape GOD or GOD’S WILL, and we cannot BE anywhere that is not that or is opposed to that, but we are free to reject or accept REALITY AS IT IS. So, we dream. We fantasize. We project defect, deformity, destruction, limitation, degeneracy, and “evil”. Deceit is the source of “evil”.
We deceive ourselves. We pretend to be what we are not, in a world that is not.
While we are surrounded by the boundless INFINITE LOVING PERFECTION that is the ONLY True Reality.
So, we’re basically self-isolated and cut-off from awareness and participation in REALITY. Effectively in a psychosis. Dreaming up a deceptive hell–IS–the–opposite–of–Reality.
But for the Grace of GOD, we’d be fvcked, endlessly repeating this bullshit over and over forever…it’s ALL THE SAME THING…THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE APPEARANCES. Predator and prey. Inferior and superior. Good and bad. Pain and pleasure. The TRUTH SETS US FREE.
Does anyone bother to ask, free from what? And from what will they receive their answer from?
It’s all or nuthin. The only way. Half measures will lead off a cliff…to start over again.
The cross represents the 2 poles, right and left…the Way out is through the middle–the neutral zone unattached to the polarities, and up and above them to THE TRUTH.
No one re-enters Reality while clinging and being attached to lies.
Hehe, the “Sun” isn’t a burning ball in the sky.
It’s actually (metaphorically) at the base of the (illusury)wart in the pic I posted. Projecting this world through an inverted/distortion lens. The lens is deceit.
It’s the hole or portal, beyond which is Reality=The Greater metaphorical (healthy-perfect-undeceived) body (of consciousness) in the pic.
Like The Truman Show world. But that story is still somewhat of a mind-fvck…it’s still warping and twisting truth, but still has a usefulness as far(towards truth) as it goes.
The Sun(Son) is like a projector in a movie theatre. A bright light.
The Greater part beyond the hole or portal projects Reality=One with GOD, the small part(of that) that we comprise has turned away from Reality and projects the opposite=this world.
“No one returns to Reality except through Me, I Am The Truth…”.
There is no need for movement(to travel or “go through”), it’s not a physical thing, it’s the transition from perception(unreality) back to Knowledge(Reality).
To re-member=rejoin Reality.
If the “Sun” looks like it’s getting bigger or closer, that would actually be the illusury world being dispelled, the hole or portal would be getting bigger. This “world” is the perceptual veil that is superimposed over Reality.
To accuse anyone of being anti semite could only logically be seen as hate speech
Has anybody looked at the illustration at top of article where John the Baptist is using pencil and paper which I don’t imagine was in use those days.
This is as all Biblical stories appear to be, made up by whoever to fit the purpose of whoever. If somebody can get a benefit out of society they just come up with another theory about religion and most times they will get a following and benefits because it is to do with religion.
I have yet to see a person being better off or cured of a sickness because of their devotion to a religion. Apparently those times have ended. I’m sure there are many practicing religious people who are, or were caught up in the covid-19 scam and are with us no more.
God’s Day of Judgement…our magnetic field is already failing…
https://dieholdfoundation.com/the-polar-reversal.html
End of an Empire.
DuckStreetStudios – YouTube
Q Drops
Both David Wilcock @ divinecosmos.com (Shadows of Ezra segment)& And We Know videos at Rumble use the Q 2017 + drops to explain today’s happenings.
No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony. There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations.
14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that “New York City was the capital of the World” and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart 422.103 (b) (2) (2)
Have patience and trust in the Lord, modern day Babylon is soon to fall it appears
The watery ending of Babylon could be as symbolised in the Wizard of Oz?
Jer.51 42 “The sea has come up over Babylon; she is covered with the multitude of its waves.” [In the Wizard of Oz the wicked witch of the west is “liquidated” by Dorothy throwing a bucket of water over her.]
Pillars on St. John the Divine Cathedral [ Jeremiah 51:42-44 ]
http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-st-john-the-divine-cathedral/
Of course Hate Speech laws will not apply to followers of the Talmud.
“Today the Gentile Christians who claim of holy right have been led in the wrong path. We, of the Jewish Faith have tried for centuries to teach the Gentiles a Christ never existed, and that the story of the Virgin and of Christ is, and always has been, a fictitious lie. In the near future, when the Jewish people take over the rule of the United States, legally under our god, we will create a new education system, providing that our god is the only one to follow, and proving that the Christ story is a fake…Christianity will be abolished.” (M.A. Levy, Secretary of the World League of Liberal Jews, in a speech in Los Angeles, California, August, 1949
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“Why should we believe in God? We hate Christianity and Christians. Even the best of them must be regarded as our worst enemies. They preach love of one’s neighbor, and pity, which is contrary to our principles. Christian love is a hindrance to the revolution. Down with love of one’s neighbor; what we want is hatred. We must know how to hate, for only at this price can we conquer the universe…The fight should also be developed in the Moslem and Catholic countries, with the same ends in view and by the same means.” (Lunatcharski, The Jewish Assault on Christianity, Gerald B. Winrod, page 44)
The Good News About God – Telling the Truth and Exposing Lies
……….Anti-Christianity: A term that is all but absent from the vocabulary of the population even though it is being practiced daily all over the world, including in America. Why? Because the Anti-Christian barrage comes from the media, virtually ALL of which is controlled by the Jews – who HATE Christianity. The media and all the Jewish organizations, including the Jewish ACLU and Jewish Hollywood, spew hatred continually against Christianity yet they scream “Anti-Semitism” when anyone says something that “offends” the Jews, even when that “something” can be proved in a Court of Law to be TRUE!
Anti-Semitism: Here is the definition of Anti-Semitism from the lips of a Jew: “Anti-Semitism does NOT signify opposition to Semitism. THERE IS NO SUCH THING. It is an expression we use effectively as a SMEARWORD, used to brand anyone who brings criticism against us.” Harold W. Rosenthal (Jewish), administrative assistant for then-U.S. Senator Jacob K. Javits (Jewish) of New York, in an interview with American Christian magazine editor, Walter White…………
https://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/
As a young child age about 6 or 7 I read the book “Pilgrims Progress” mentioned at the end of the video, I read it 2 or 3 times, possibly more. Perhaps this is where I first developed a clear sense for symbolism, and symbolism is the hardest thing for manipulators of the truth to tamper with, especially when the symbolism is future dated. So I would contend for example that passages like “locusts with the faces of men” refer to military helicopters, whereas the claim that passages saying “these events will happen soon” etc., are more likely fabrications. As I pointed out below it is very, very clear that Chapter 1 of the Revealations refers to an atom bomb, it is a perfect image of an atom bomb even coming with audio ( “the sound of many waters” ). It is backed up by Daniel. It is not “god”, as claimed by the academics. “God” is the voice-over, talking to John. The vision is what it is. This is why symbolism such as a beast (BIS) with 7 heads and 10 crowns is so pertinent today and so unlikely to be much tampered with, because to earlier readers it would have been a total boondoggle. The academics get a bit lost in working out when it was written, to try to create a timeline, but the atom bomb places it in the mid-20th century. It’s more useful to work out what is real and what was later fabricated into it.
Mohamet Bogan does not say this for fame or fortune, it is to promote a clearer version of reality, untainted by the feeble efforts of academics to please their paymasters.
I listened to half the guy’s woffle, Steve Gregg, I will try to keep listening but only out of deference to the editors, I have paused because I want to issue a challenge to Elbow.
Dear Right Dishonourable Prime Minion Elbow,
I am sick of the hypocrisy and inaction and I demand you award Australian citizenship to surviving Gazan residents on the condition that they go and work in the mines service industries up north making kebabs etc.
Haha…Agent Smith-Bogan has arrived…so quick!…can’t have that one (post) at the top for long…need to bury it….quick!
What controls you, huh? What uses you like a puppet on a string…
https://youtu.be/gg8JYYyWSPg
And the both funny and sad part of it all is that 99 out of 100 or more will be blind and scoff and sneer when truthful revelation is given.
Rockerfellas
a selection from the bot:
“The House of Roquefeuil is an ancient French noble family with roots tracing back to the 10th century. Its history is marked by significant political, military, and cultural contributions, particularly in the Languedoc region of France.
“In 1129, the House of Roquefeuil-Anduze was established through the marriage of Adelaïs of Roquefeuil, heiress of the first Roquefeuil family, to Bernard of Anduze. Their son, Raymond, inherited his mother’s possessions and retained the Roquefeuil name, founding the House of Roquefeuil-Anduze. This union solidified their influence, allowing them to control significant lands and even mint their own currency.
“Medieval Period and Military Engagements (12th–15th Centuries)
The Roquefeuil-Anduze family was actively involved in major medieval conflicts, including the Cathar Crusade, the Seventh Crusade, and the Hundred Years’ War. Raymond II of Roquefeuil participated in the Fourth Council of the Lateran and the Seventh Crusade, with his coat of arms commemorated in the Hall of Crusades at Versailles.
“Society of the Cincinnati: The Roquefeuil-Blanquefort family is a member of this society, reflecting their involvement in the American Revolutionary War.
“Summary
The House of Roquefeuil, originating in the 10th century, evolved through the Roquefeuil-Anduze and Roquefeuil-Blanquefort branches, playing a significant role in French medieval and early modern history. Their involvement in crusades, wars, and governance, along with their construction of notable castles like Bonaguil and retention of Versols, underscores their enduring legacy.”
DuPonts also go back to Thomas Jefferson, they sold black powder to the army and to both sides during the civil war. They got a landmark circle in DC. They invented rayon, nylon, neoprene, Dacron, Mylar, Teflon, Kevlar. Probably the main contributor to the 1980’s ozone hole with their chlorofluorocarbons (CFC’s), manipulated into the CO2 based ClimateChange scare campaign today. One of the heirs got off a charge of child rape with no jail time.
Paul Revere, Louis Chevrolet, and a few others were somewhat less evil.
Here’s some “Revelation” for ya:
Behold! The world! In all it’s glory!!!
https://www.singerskin.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Common-Wart.jpg
A illustration of
A subjective (private=detached from Truth)) dream that is ruled by deceit. The earthlings inside believe it’s “reality”, but OBJECTIVELY it’s not really there.
It’s just a little dead spot in the consciousness that has had communication with REALITY-GOD momentarily interrupted, and thus they “believe” all sorts of crazy sh-t to be “true” from within it(this fake world).
What do you think is looking down at that (“rebellious”) spot?…It’s looking down there with a sense of bemusement…
(bemused–definition= to cause to have feelings of wry or tolerant amusement)
“I Am The Truth, The Way, and The Life, no one returns to Reality except through Me”, I Am The Truth, and My Name is LOVE.
GOD-IS-LOVE. THE REAL AND THE TRUE ETERNAL.
Any day and every day can be “The Apocalypse”.
It’s really just about The Truth being activated internally (individually) and allowing It to “reveal” the differences between truth and lie, reality and fantasy.
Anything else is just more bullshit designed to keep a person/people from Real-izing that Truth within.
Anything else is designed to discredit and refute The Truth, thereby switching places with it, and making the lies “true” and the Truth into lies. That is the basic purpose and function of this world. In principle and premise it is the opposite of Reality. The “lens” is deceit.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven [Reality] in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.” Matthew 23-13
We’re all a bunch of fake characters have fake experiences in a fake world. It is behind/before the fictional character there is The Real. “The Prodigal Son”….took a trip into La-La Land….haha…and everyone believes it to be “Reality”….but The Prodigal Son is just a very small part of the Greater Undeceived ‘Son” within GOD.
The Prodigal Son tested the truthfulness of TRUTH…and REALITY.
We are that consciousness, playing it all out here, virtually.
Certain things make it obvious what’s going on here.
What’s the use of academics and theoreticians in something like this. The books have been meddled with since before day 1. They have been reconstructed for a purpose, to manipulate. Why is the bulk of the NT written by servant of Rome, Saul / Paul. Why are 3 gospels nearly identical. and of the remainder, the best book revelations, probably altered almost beyond belief. However I have it on very good authority chapter 1 is a depiction of an atom bomb, read it yourself, it is not a vision of “god” as claimed by the academics, it’s clearly an atom bomb, placing us in the mid-20th century, at the very beginning of the book. This dispels the other interpreters who say it is all about 100 AD or some such time. My view on the BIS with 7 heads is that Swissyland has 7 heads of state. Ten crowns: Europe has 10 crowns, Spain Norway Sweden Denmark England Holland Belgium ( kings ) Luxembourg Monaco Liechtenstein ( princes ). Easier to make a practical interpretation in hindsight than with any number of academics trying to apply foresight. The mark of the BIS shows how these satanists delight in making prophesies come true. The number 666 originally from the writing on the pope’s hat, vicarius dei whatever it was, has been adopted as the logo for Google Chrome, the American Medical Association, the WEF and numerous other Globalist satanist outfits. How can a bunch of fun-loving satanists with deep pockets and very small minds bring about the 2nd coming or apocalypse I ask you. Just because they tampered with the book doesn’t mean they have other-worldly powers. They say the only power of Satan is to deceive, and they say Satan lives INSIDE “YOU”
Ahuh, The late Greg Delaney, was well ahead of the Biggest Delusion in the history of MANKIND. source,… https://dn720002.ca.archive.org/0/items/banjo-billy/G_d%201%20-%20SumerianSwindle.pdf
Typo… It’s supposed to say If it lights up somewhere in the second half of 2026
Dragons are Comets… Revelations is describing in a coded descriptive way about the 2nd Sun’s effects on the earth (maybe to dodge Roman censorship) it is telling us what happens when the 2nd Sun , our Sun’s binary partner returns… This is the most censored subject in history. Way past the convidshot!!!
I’ll say it again…
Watch Comet, C/2014 UN271 (Bernardinelli-Bernstein)
https://science.nasa.gov/missions/hubble/hubble-confirms-largest-comet-nucleus-ever-seen/
If it lights up somewhere in the second half of 2926 (because big brother has said that C/2014 won’t light up) if it lights up… BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES
like I have said… It’s the reason for the shots… It’s the reason for the 2030 crap.
1 Corinthians 2:14
New King James Version
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The Bible is possibly the most inaccurate history book. It may be fiction.
Lot is in a cave with his two daughters and God has failed to provide husbands.
The daughters get themselves pregnant to a drunken father.
We just cant take the book seriously.
Scofield the fraudster did a lot of damage and may have put the term Jew into the Bible.
We know all about John Hagee. Got caught having an affair. Booted out.
Went down the road and opened another church.
These guys are surely in it for the money.
How important is Book of Revelation?
It tells us about Revelation 13:17
“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”
We had the test with QR codes during covid lockdowns.
Listen to Peter Thiel when during interview he tells that the choice is between 3 world war or antichrist.
The Good News is telling us about the future events like Rapture Luke 17:35
“Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”
Be ready.
Thank you for this excellent article. Steve Gregg’s book ‘Four Views of Revelation’ made a big impact on me, and I no longer subscribe to the Hollywood version of eschatology, but read my KJV and trust God that his wonderful plans will be worked out in his perfect time, while praying that the church including myself, are ready for whatever will happen.
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