Gone to corporations everyone, when will they ever learn?
By Simon Johanson SMH
November 1, 2016
Australia’s big four banks have quietly destroyed all paper land titles they hold for 1.6 million Victorian mortgagees, forcing property owners to use a bank-owned electronic transaction system.
Any future sales of properties whose titles are held by the bank will need to be transacted, at least in part, electronically.
The mass destruction of paper titles and their replacement with electronic certificates has been questioned by property lawyers who fear it will compromise security and effectively outsource the 150-year-old Torrens title system to private operators.
The Law Institute of Victoria has been an outspoken critic of the electronic system, arguing it increases costs for consumers, undermines those holding titles for security against other assets, and adds complexity and legal uncertainty to a what was once a simple, safe system.
The changes were ushered in by the Registrar of Titles who declared in a notice in the Victoria Government Gazette that paper based titles will be void and of no effect from October 22, 2016.
Property owners whose paper land titles are held by major banks were not told their title documents have been destroyed.
The conversion of paper certificates of title to electronic versions was part of a national push to electronic conveyancing on the PEXA system, a spokesman for Land Victoria said.
PEXA is owned by state governments, the ANZ, CBA, NAB, Westpac, Macquarie Bank and private equity.
“If landowners wish to get a paper title when their mortgage is paid out, they can do so,” the spokesman said.
Bruce King from Kirby & Co. Solicitors said he conducted his first property transaction on the system last week and it was more expensive.
The transaction went smoothly but other lawyers encountered difficulties with banks failing to nominate a controlling entity which meant some settlements didn’t get through, he said.
PEXA chief executive Marcus Price said paper titles were cumbersome to use. “People keep losing them, including banks,” he said.
Most property fraud occurs with unencumbered paper titles being taken and used by other family members, he said.
“This is a long overdue catch-up by property to the two other big assets, shares and cash, which are exchanged electronically,” Mr Price said.
“It is ultimately a much safer system,” he said.
PEXA was set up in 2010 with federal government support after a meeting of the Council of Australian Governments urged modernisation of the antiquated system of paper-based transfers used by land titles offices and conveyancers.
The Titles Office in NSW is in the process of being privatised and South Australia is considering similar plans. Queensland titles have been privatised and parchment deeds are long gone.
AND…And if the ‘UN’ does take over our hard-worked-for property; does that mean we can HANG THE BASTARDS FOR TREASON!!!
At nearly 74, I am sick of a life as a prisoner of CRIMINALS!
Worked my arse off for 50 years; and paid all my taxes [‘pay unto caesar, that which is caesars’], and I’ve HAD ENOUGH of satan and his minions!
J Madison is spot on.
In addition, It’s said that land Titles issued by the States and Territory’s in Australia are “indefeasible”; but that only pertains to a Government Record of the current “lessee” (Title by Registration) it does not designate “ownership” of the land (Registration of Title); “indefeasibility” only registers the entity who is the current Registered Proprietor licensed to “use” the land under a Statutory law or Act of that particular State or Territoty; that is not an Estate of Inheritance at common law (Fee Simple) or any of the usual bundle of common law land rights that we all should be enjoying at common law; I have several family members that lie in war cemeteries around the world that died for my freedom and I do not have it.
I know someone that has written to the King and asked Him to act and restore our rights and he will not, for several reasons: 1) he (and his mother) has taken the money from the Australian Government to remain fictitious monarch; 2) even if he did, how would would he enforce it?; 3) the changing demographics of our population would not support it, true Australians are just about extinct.
Just to add a bit more to the debate, there is a movement underway by aboriginal political interests aided and abetted by the United Nations Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues (UNPFII) to lobby the British Crown to rescind the Doctrine of Discovery; they have approached the old Queen and she ignored them, they have approached Charles and he ahs entered into dialog with them. In the Catholic realm this Pope has already rescinded the old Vatican edict.
The Canadian Indians are spearheading the movement but the Australian aboriginal activists are right there see here;
Currently Native Title is registered across about 88% of Australian land mass; when they achieve the removal of the Doctrine that will make all the Law illegitimate in Australia that has its foundation in British law (including the 1901 Constitution) and the so called law that was supposed to exist prior to 1788 will be in force and the “First Nation” will take over the position of the Crown.
We will be then a lawless country just like New Guinea and Africa.
I do agree with J Madison about the fight that must eventually come, it will come but to bring it on we will have to have severe economic hardship and that is not far off; the whole of the western world in teetering on the edge; the question is, is there enough of us left to go to a Gettysburg?
Like what you have written, in other-words: KISS – “Keep It Simple Stupid.”
Gaucho Gill has it right. Here is the problem, we have a contract with The Sovereign and her Heirs and Successors within the Constitution of 1901 giving the owner of fee simple and Crown lease land total ownership and rights to that land as expressed in the title.
These private governments have no contract with us or The Crown. Hawkes Australia Act never went to the people at Referendum, therefore there is no Contract with the people and these pseudo parliaments.
The political classes claim legitimacy by stating, that ” you voted for us”. This is a scam, Their Compulsory Voting voids all legitimacy. Coercion, at common law destroys any question of public assent.
These bogus governments had no contract with The People or The Crown ever. They never owned the Land to make any laws concerning it or to steal the titles and issue any new titles. By doing so they have destroyed Contract Law worldwide.
The solution remains the same. Either Charles stands up like a man and kicks these thieves out, or our gutless, corrupt Army cleans up it’s act and steps in to support the people.
Plenty people will throw up their hands and rave about this being useless, but any conflict between civilians and the Army as they advocate, would be a blood bath.
I have walked some of the American civil War battlefields. Gettysburg, 52,000 dead in two and a half days. Cold Harbour, 12,000 dead in 20 minutes.
It may well come to this here, but let’s not be hasty to ignore all other options.
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Now we own it, now we don’t.
We don’t need a title deed to be happy. We need to do as we’re told. The corporate-gubbernment partnership will take care of the rest.
Who ever said we’re entitled to anything? We’ve been digitised, a few flicks of someone’s middle digit and we no longer exist.
If we’re not ready to lick it we can learn to like it. Lest we forget.
Since when has the UN any business poking its schnekker into National Land Reforms?
This is why I own nothing except my transport, guitars and tools, all of which are readily transportable. As long as unlawful government controls Australia I will never purchase land. At one time I owned a residential property plus 160 acres of prime horticultural land, until I realised what a liability these would become. So now I have devised a new system in which capitalisation does not exist and I am as regulatable as the wind. So, fuck you, WEF. I am free, strong, healthy, and pureblood, which is worth more than any wealth.
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one point missed in this article;
Fee Simple title (which is Real Property) emanates from the Crown directly, it can only be granted by the Sovereign either in person or through the Governor General, or a State Governor (provided of course the Governor is really appointed by the Crown).
Fee Simple is explained by Sir William Blackstone in 1723 – 1780, Commentaries on the Laws of England.
The Crown on the 1901 Constitution can issue Fee Simple, however the Queen of Australia cannot, so that’s why the States have repealed the old Titles issued by the old Crown (which already had been recorded in the Torrens Title system since 1863) and replaced them with State Freehold.
State Freehold Title that the States issue certainly since the Australia Act 1986 across the nation are just State leasehold and Native title exists on that land. The Native Title Act recognizes that fact as there is a complete section in the Act dealing with a “test” for freehold because Fee Simple gives the Grantee “Exclusive Possession” State Freehold does not, hence so called Freehold with tree clearing regulations, that’s not Fee Simple.
Since the Australia Act Sir William Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England have largely been repealed throughout Australia and replaced by State “Law Of Property Act”(s). In the NT the Real Property Act itself was repealed in 2000.
The foreign government and their political subdivisions are at work destroying our rights and instilling communism in the shadow of Karl Marx.
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The Brigalow Corporation plays the role of the Queensland government. Yes , treason has been,and is being committed, You know, I know,Many, many people know. The corporation knows we know, so what ? We just talk about it. The estate aents say nothing , they still get paid. The conveyancers still get paid, so they don’t care The Fabians , the wolves, hiding in sheeps clothing ‘, know all about it They had intentioms for years, of us little phlebs owning nothing.. …………and my god-father, it is looking more and more like it every day, and we older ones talk of it, and the younger ones won’t listen , and so the rort goes on. The psuedo government goes after anyone who stands up and speaks out till they break them or jail them,or both. While all the while the continue to suck off the public tit,Pardon the vulgrity.
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Hi Editor Facts Here is a Treasonous title by the Queensland Government.
Queensland Government is not the Government of Queensland.
*The Seal was created in 1997 = Treason. *
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Cairns News has been tracking this story for awhile. Looks like the chickens have now come home to roost.