THE New Testament book of Revelation continues to this day to be a subject of controversy between various theological and eschatalogical (prophecy teaching) positions.
One major controversy is the dating of the book, which is divided into two camps. The first says it was written by the Apostle John around 95AD under the Roman Emperor Domitian. The second says it was written circa AD66 under the Emperor Nero.
Another major controversy is whether Revelation is historically fulfilled (preterism) or focused on future unfolding prophecy (futurism).
Bible teacher Bruce W. Gore, M.A., J.D., from Spokane, Washington, says it was likely written by the John on the Island of Patmos early in the era of the persecution of Christians under Nero and outlines his case
Gore has has been teaching Bible history and theology from the perspective of the Reformed Tradition for 50 years and served on the adjunct faculty of Whitworth University in Spokane, Washington for more than 30 years, while maintaining a private practice in trial law.
In this video, one of a series, Gore sets the historical scene for his early date case under Nero, drawing from external evidence in history and internal evidence from the text itself.

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Who’s your Sugar Daddy folks? All the rich bastards and TV celebrities? All those baby-eating Pollies and the blood drenched beauracrats and unelected officials and infanticidal “Health Care Workers” and ALL THE REST? Peace President Ginger Nuts and the Vampires?
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Good luck with that.
To Debbie with Reality-The second sun/central sun.
Neil Hague’s book-The Orion Door-you may like,was recommended by David Icke.
Covers The Central sun,the 26,000 year cycles which was built into the Giza Pyramids and much more.
You can read the book description on amazon.com.au
An attack on Bible teaching, on Christ second coming and Rapture of His followers. Matthew 24:42
“Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.” Matthew 24:40
“Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”
Better be ready for Christ coming, or deceived by the alien coming.
Seriously? In this day and age I find it difficult to understand why anyone would place any faith in an old book written thousands of years ago by ignorant goat herders who had none of the information we have today. When will mankind stop believing in fairy stories?
Produced in 1961 by the French publisher, Joseph Foret, the specially commissioned ‘L’Apocalypse de Saint Jean’ constitutes the world’s most expensive book. As a unique one-off edition, it was sold to a collectors consortium for $1,000,000 [a hefty sum in those days]. Prior to being deposited in a Swiss bank vault, where it currently remains, the book was displayed in a glass bubble and exhibited around the world. The book is now limited to private viewings by its shareholders and their friends. These people know.
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Those familiar with medieval and renaissance art pertinent to these important but hidden matters, will no doubt understand the symbolism and meaning behind the book’s specially commissioned artworks.
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Among those assigned to the task, Salvador Dali’s artworks stand prominent. The symbolism within his works serve as a continuation of the western European esoteric art tradition dating from the medieval and renaissance era. These traditions served as the contemporary means for communicating openly without fear of attracting the undesired attention of the Roman Inquisition.
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As the Roman Church was founded upon the apostolic succession, it was well known to their subsequent political power structure, that the only Church possessed of a superior authority to their own was that founded upon the Desposynic succession. It was precisely for this reason why the adherents of this tradition suffered a centuries long persecution as heretics.
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Dali’s distinctly thematic works provide a clearly defined exposition of the historical events portrayed and discussed in the Book of Revelation. In sum, the finale event of the Book of Acts now carried over into the Book of Revelation. This particular historical continuum was conveyed via the most important of Dali’s commissioned paintings, which he completed in 1960, a year before the book’s publication: namely, – ‘The Life of Mary Magdalene.’
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Those familiar with this two thousand year historical tradition can easily pinpoint the earliest and first ever mention of this particular event. It was first recorded by John Boanerges in his Book of Revelation. The entry date was A.D. 44.
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Although none of this really matters anymore, it is still extremely interesting from a historical standpoint, especially those conveyed via the Western European esoteric literary and art traditions.
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This is called Preterism, The theory that all Revelation was completed by 70AD. The father of Preterism is the Spanish Jesuit priest Luis de Alcázar (1554–1613), not Manuel de Lacunza. It was developed to take the focus off the pope as preached by all Bible Believing Christians since 538AD, The Reformers and all Protestant preachers down to Spurgeon circa 1900.
The other false theory is Futurism, ie, Dispensationalism (Hal Lindsey) that Revelation developed by Manuel de Lacunza and Francisco Ribera, both Jesuit priests. The theory postures that all Revelation will be fulfilled after a fake Rapture 7 years before the end.
Both were developed by Jesuit priests to take the heat off the Pope. The books got into the hands of Pommie cultists; Irving-Darby-PlymouthBretheren-Scofield-Chafer-DallasTheoLogicalSeminary(DTS) and most of the non-Catholic Christian world has fallen to these false doctrines.
Since that Tony Tassie fellow wrote here about the second Sun being due early in 2031, I decided to look into it.
It fits all criteria of the writings in Revelations being that if a second Sun exists, and it would be cyclical, and that would explain all of the many civilisations being wiped out over the many millenia of Earth’s past.
Revelations would then be seen as a warning for future cycles.
If you take the Riders on the Horses to represent different Comets then the one to look for preceding the actual second Sun’s arrival you could look at the Rider on the Pale Horse.
The original Greek text says that that particular rider is on a sickly green horse not pale ( so it would be a Green Comet)
Comet Wierzchoś (C/2024 E1): This city-sized comet made a close approach to Earth in February 2026. It captured global attention for its striking emerald-green coma.
So looking at the orbital parameters of Comet, C/2014 UN271, it looks to be that around the 15th of August if it is the second Sun, it should light up in the southern skies despite what NASA says.
So we’ll have to wait a few more weeks to see if Tassie Tony was correct.
This would indeed fit with all of the Wars and rumours of wars predicted.
Also it would explain the wef’s 2030 business.
And all of the so-called bunkers the big wigs have been building.
The Christ story maybe talking about a cross (christ) type of arrangement involved with the second Sun.
No doubt that this type of event would involve God and or the Souls here on Earth.
I am not concerned about all of this.
Just curious.
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(Bernardinelli–Bernstein)
This massive “megacomet”
Comet, C/2014 UN271
(Bernardinelli–Bernstein)
This massive “megacomet” is so large, it has exhibited spectacular cometary activity.
Orbital Period: It travels on a massive, highly eccentric orbit that takes. approximately 3 to 4 million years to complete one cycle.
(that has got to be a lie)
Its nucleus is incredibly dark, reflecting only about 4.4% of the sunlight that hits it—similar to the albedo of charcoal. (the Dark Sun)
Some have called it Nibiru.
Probably it was commenter Berry who advised one time that the bible was restructured around Jesus that’s why they took the Apocrypha out, with stuff about giants, space aliens, anything like that, out. If not berry I read it somewhere but it’s painfully obvious with murderous Saul/Paul and the tax collector Levi/Matthew running the scribes. What a pair of rogues !!! Saul presumably got the commission on the road to Damascus and sold out to Rome.
The elites always make great use of the deities as a “higher authority” to approve their positions and activities. So is Jesus now going to come and live at Bibi’s 3rd temple, I didn’t hear about that before, probably not Bibi’s plan either. Well I don’t care what all the nutters come up with. Look how they sacrificed the church here and transplanted Rockerfellas MedicalSystem instead. Now, only doctor can save you with his needle full of magic potion. You see the problem, it’s universal, people come at things with a bunch of BELIEFS. They’re lemmings.
As the Roman Emperor according to Talmudic legend Nero allegedly converted to Talmudic Judaism. Everyone knows that rather than as a matter of faith or divine conviction ‘converts’ historically converted to other religions primarily as a means of preserving or enhancing their assets and power. So you can’t trust Nero. And you can also probably guess whose interests he was looking after when he was happy to fiddle while the Christians in Rome ‘burned’.
After studying the Bible and the listening to the interpretations of great and small scholars, pastors and other Christians (and fake Christians) over the last 40 years, I finally grasp that the WHOLE Bible points to Christ (not the nation of Israel) and God’s final judgement of Israel in AD 70.
Why have I come to this conclusion?
There are two specific verses about the “return” of Christ.
The first can be found in when Jesus says to Pilate in John 18:36 “My kingdom is not of this world”
And the second in Revelation 1:6 and 5:10 when the word of God addresses the church “… you were made to be a kingdom of priests to our God”.
These statements are clear. They are emphatic.
When we ponder on what He said about His kingdom we are correct to interpret that He is talking about a spiritual kingdom. And we are also correct to say that His kingdom was not to be then but some time in the future from then.
But that some time in the future still meant it was NOT “of this world”. By this we know that He was referring to the fact that His kingdom would NEVER be on THIS physical earth.
Again, He is saying He would never bring his kingdom back to this world at any time then, or in the future from then. So, where was His kingdom to be? When would it be?
John’s vision in Revelation says clearly that a NEW heaven and a NEW earth would be the basis of His kingdom. Most definitely NOT on this earth.
Which begs the question, why today do most Christians in the West think Jesus is bringing His kingdom back to Jerusalem in today’s Israel, so that our Lord will rule in a physical rebuilt temple for a thousand years?
Especially when Jesus describes His body as the temple of God, NOT a physical temple built by man.
And, is not His body the Church? What has that got to do with a physical rebuilt temple in Jerusalem? These are spiritual matters He is talking about.
Because these are spiritual matters, it stands to reason that today’s ethnic physical Israel are NOT God’s chosen people. But that it is His (metaphorical) body that is is a spiritual gathering of believers, and who are His chosen.
As His chosen church is a “kingdom of priests” as stated in our quoted second verses in Revelation we also know that OUR kingdom is also not of this world.
Hermeneutics (the study that demands scripture interprets scripture) demands we must REVIEW the idea of a literal one thousand year millennium, where it is thought that Christ returns to THIS world bringing His Kingdom with Him, sometime in the near future.
A much discussed historical church position is that Matthew 24 is about the Great Tribulation of AD70 and Christ returning THEN in Gods judgement on a wicked Israel, ushering in the end of the Old Covenant through the destruction of the Temple, and the final establishment of the New Covenant when EVERYTHING was accomplished.
On His coming: He came once (the first time) as a child and young man, crucified on the cross for our sins. He came again (the second time) when He was resurrected. And the aforementioned discussion showing that His Kingdom is not of this world makes sense with the historical position that He came again (the third time) in AD70 in judgement of apostate Israel.
Does He need to come a fourth time? Should not we go to the King instead, NOW?
And, for further thought, if we acknowledge that the demonic realm exists now AGAINST us, then can we not also acknowledge that the Kingdom of God exists now FOR us?
Brothers we can come NOW directly to His throne, which is existing NOW in the “New” heaven and earth which has overcome this earth already in an extra earthly dimension we cannot physically see yet. Why wait in vain for His so called “second” coming? He has already come three times! It’s time for us to go to the King, rather than Him going to our rescue again.
Can we consider that the dead in Christ have already risen? Do we believe that our deceased bretheren are in the new heaven now? And do we believe that non believers are already in Hell, or do we in error think that they are dead waiting for a future judgement?
Surely, NOW is the day of salvation for us who believe. Judgement already made. And NOW is the day of condemnation for those who do not. Judgement already made. And, surely Gods judgement wrath is (present tense) being revealed now against all unrighteousness.
I am certain we who are alive will eventually be “caught up in the clouds” to go the same way as all deceased in Christ, to be with Him forever more!
Praise to God in the Highest.”
PS the events of today are merely Satan’s re-creation of the Great Tribulation of AD70, in his role as “god” of this world. He has done this many times in history!
the koran is quite correct in declaring that theology is a crime against god and all readings of it and by extension, all ancient religious books should be undertaken by the individual without “guidance”.. a crime against god that is being committed by the very worshippers that are completely aware of what they are doing…
in this case its harmless debate about the time of writing and the answer to the other question is in the book itself ,but majority of the time its for evil purposes using it as tool for manipulation of its followers..
“A Top Economist Quietly Confirms My Famine Warning … Here’s Why It Matters
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The Convergence of Warnings
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For years I have been sounding the alarm about an impending global famine — a crisis engineered by supply chain vulnerabilities, fertilizer dependencies, and deliberate policy choices. Now, Professor Steve Keen, a top economist known for his correct predictions of financial crashes, has independently arrived at the same conclusion.
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Using the same logic and evidence, he warns that billions are at risk. I have been warning about this since my 2021 docuseries with Steve Quayle, which forecasted exactly these kinds of threats, linking food shortages to biblical prophecies of famine. [1][2] Keen’s numbers are larger than mine — he says 2 billion are at risk due to the present-day fertilizer loss, and I put the figure at 400 million — but that difference is not the important part in all this. What matters is that we both point to an unprecedented food crisis by 2027.
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This convergence between a leading economist and a food scientist (that’s me) validates the seriousness of the threat. When two independent analysts using different methodologies reach the same terrifying conclusion, it is time to pay attention.
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The Math Behind the Threat
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The Haber-Bosch process, which synthesizes ammonia for fertilizer by expending a tremendous amount of energy to harvest nitrogen from the atmosphere, feeds roughly half the world’s population. Yet roughly 10 percent of global fertilizer production depends on the Persian Gulf region — right now a powder keg due to the Strait of Hormuz blockade.
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As documented by The New American, the closure of that strait is causing a cascading crisis in agriculture and food supply. [3] Nitrogen fertilizer shortages are already fueling food inflation, compounded by war, drought, and trade disruptions. [4] With a 1- to 2-year lag time between fertilizer disruption and crop failure, we are looking at the loss of approximately 400 million human-equivalent food units per day by 2027 (I’m stating it that way because food is redistributed during scarcity, so it’s not 400 million individual people who have nothing to eat while everybody else does). Even if food is redistributed, the poor and middle class will bear the brunt. The wealthy can buy their way out, but for everyone else, scarcity will become a brutal reality. This is not speculation — it is arithmetic.
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Disagreements Are Fine — But the Clock Is Ticking
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Now, let me be clear: Professor Keen and I do not see eye to eye on everything. He subscribes to climate alarmism, a belief that I consider a failure to understand basic plant physiology. Carbon dioxide is plant food, not pollution, and photosynthesis is the key to food production for humanity. The entire climate narrative has been weaponized to crush energy production and centralize control in the hands of governments that seem to despise humanity. But that disagreement does not diminish the value of his economic insights on food and famine. I respect Keen’s work, and I encourage you to listen to him. We can learn from experts even when we don’t see eye to eye on every issue.
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I will continue interviewing other voices like Michael Yon and Matt Bracken, because the famine threat is too big to ignore over ideological purity. The clock is ticking, and we need all the wisdom we can get. Fraying food systems may be our next crisis, as previously highlighted in independent analyses of global supply chains….”
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Well, we don’t know when the Lord returns but we are meant to know the season. Iran war looks like sabotage on the whole world.
The Book of Revelation was written by John the Apostle, i.e. John Boanerges of Zebedee. Although the clergy generally teach that the sequential weddings within the Book of Revelation are symbolic of Christ’s marriage to the Church. The fact remains, that when John wrote the text on Patmos, there was no Church. He knew absolutely nothing about an establishment that evolved after his own lifetime.
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As a natural continuation of Jesus’s preceding biography, the Book of Revelation was chronologically ordered to follow the Acts of the Apostles. As such, the events surrounding the life of Jesus and the Messianic Royal Family are those that occurred after the last events as presented in Acts. As the book’s title implies, the work refers to a joyous ‘revelation’ of the continuation of the Royal House of David [albeit, in heavy allegorical code].
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The weddings discussed in John’s extremely esoteric stanzas were contemporary records relating to the Messianic family, whom at that point, were subject to severe persecution by Rome.
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John’s coded revelation was a written testimony, specifically designed to inform the Nazarene diaspora of the important matters surrounding the survival and whereabouts of their Messianic royal family. At this particular time, the family were forced to evacuate Judea due to severe persecution form Rome.
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In further regards to these important but hidden matters, those who are somewhat better informed, will remember that in 1962, a uniquely commissioned one off edition entitled, L’Apocalypse de Saint Jean (The Apocalypse of Saint John) was sold for $1,000,000. It was bought by a consortium of investors and subsequently placed in a Swiss bank vault. It has remained there ever since. Viewing available to investors only.
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And then we have the Book of John, that’s the interesting one, who was the real author/s of this text?
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Get your pesher proper and your proper!
All roads lead to Rome, and the papacy (which currently is in process of deceiving so many, with the Catholic conversions, actually leading into the antichrist (s). Everyone who wants to hear the real biblical truth, refer to Tutor Alexander, https://www.danceoflife.com. Free of charge, if on substack.com This site will change your life, after all the untruths we heard throughout our lives. He always backs it up with scripture, and you can read for yourself.
Nothing controversial about it.
The whole Nero thing was dreamed up back in the day, they didn’t know what they were talking about, someone is always preaching “repent the end is nigh”, they come and go. The popes hat VICARIVS FILIUS DEI I think it reads, adds up neatly to 666 “for those who have wisdom”, also supports all the theories or conspiracy facts that the Catholic has a dark side. Pope has a changing room called “crying room”, of course there is more than one explanation for that. If some popes are bad what chance the Revelations is not adulterated. Sure there is stuff in there that is genuine, the trick is always to mix enough truth into your lies or you fool no-one. Nobody in ancient times would recognise a video of an atom bomb but that’s what we see in chapter 1. I was thinking about this out for a walk in Paris one day, going under the Pont whatever it’s called beside the river. I was thinking the voice over during the bomb scene sounds like authentic reporting. At that moment I could suddenly, somehow, feel the inside of my body made of space-time and atoms, for want of a better description, which would be that I was “filled with spirit”, I came out from under the pont and right in my face was the front view of the Notre Dame, so the Rt Hon Joe Bogan’s interpretation has been authenticated from an other-worldly place, unlike all the theorists, some of whom jumped the gun by nearly 2000 years in their excitement. Stuff that happened during Nero was nothing remarkable, throwing people to the lions is so mundane compared to the twisted and perverted future the kids are being ushered into nowadays. I looked at “locusts with the faces of men and tails of scorpions” and saw the helicopters, later heard a tv preacher saying the same thing. Beast with 7 heads and 10 crowns sounds like Swissyland’s 7 heads of state and Europe’s remaining 10 royal houses. Some of the stuff like 7 candles is 7 churches bla bla is most likely made up and added in. Never underestimate the enthusiasm for telling tall tales and adulterating anything. It all becomes clear with hindsight.
Another item that caught my attention was Nostradamus’s “milky rain weapon”, and I read about that long before learning about DEWs or having weather manipulations rebadged as ClimateChange. Nostradamus is Euro-centric so I wonder who is going to cop the milky rain weapon, maybe anyone who looks like storming Swissyland’s borders en masse. There is so much bio-tech and weapons development that is going to be sped up by AI systems, it’s going to be mind boggling, I hope I am not too much inconvenienced.
One thing Global elites have not worked out is that technocracy, Satanism and substance abuse will not be ultimately gratifying. Look at technocracy, these people think an IQ test is the measure of smartness, just puzzles with a few triangles or whatever doesn’t make you smart, and relying on the AI will not help either. All sorts of things are not smart, for example commencing a law degree in 2027 would most likely be “not smart”, staying in Melbourne another “not smart” idea, the Global elites are not exceptionally smart except relatively, like an egg farmer is smarter than his chickens. A monoculture of old bloodlines will be very stale, they are basically boring non-contributors.
The Bible is the plan of God from the creation to the kingdom of God. It explains the hows, whys, and wherefores, and prophecy is one of the vehicles in that explanation. Most prophecies concentrate on the ‘end times’ or the transition from the current state of satanic/human control back to Divine rulership. That transition stage is a time of judgment during which both Satan and unrepentant evil human beings will be removed from the scene. The book of Revelation is an integral part of those ‘end time’ prophecies and has to be read with the book of Daniel and the prophecies of Jesus Christ (Olivet prophecy, etc.). Otherwise, Revelation makes no sense. Admittedly, in Daniel and Revelation there is symbolism, but the Bible explains the symbols to those who look. Unfortunately, in the Christian world there seems to be no shortage of theories, most of which are based on personal hypotheses or plain lack of research and understanding. It is worth noting, however, two things regarding prophecies. Firstly God said to Daniel:
“Go thy way Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.” (Daniel 12:9).
And secondly, it is the author of the prophecies, our Creator God, who opens the mind to understanding. So, if you want to know what’s going to happen, He’s the one to ask.