By MICHAEL SLOVANOS
THE deepest dungeons of the web have vomited up a theory that Charlie Kirk did not die.

Aside from the absurdity of the claim that Kirk, a nationally recognized, married man of faith with two young children, was somehow faking his own death for some bizarre, alleged political purpose, there are trustworthy close friends of Kirk who saw it all happen.

One of them was his close friend Dr Frank Turek, who teamed up with Kirk in 2020 to swap ideas in their separate Christian apologetics campaigns focusing on US college campuses. Apologetics is the term for explaining the systematic defence of Christianity in context of history, language and theology. Dr Turek is president of an apologetics organisation called CrossExamined.org.

Dr Turek was at the scene of the shooting and was with the security detail that picked Kirk up and frantically pushed him into the back seat of a car to take him to a hospital about 8km away. Turek was one of those holding Kirk, attempting to stem the blood flow and applying CPR.

We can disagree with the very shaky public narrative put out by the FBI and speculate about who fired the shot and from where (it looks more like a close range pistol shot) but the fact of his death is not disputed, except by some subterranean cave dwellers who apparently don’t believe sunshine is real.

But of course, these cave dwellers can dream up all sorts of ostensible reasons for the “he didn’t die” conspiracy theory: “It was to start a civil war! It was to distract from Trump’s Epstein connections! It was …(add your pet theory).”

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  1. Michael Slovanos comments:
    MrNowhereMan, a Scientologist donating to Charlie Kirk’s organisation does not make Kirk a Scientologist. Cardone was obviously impressed by Kirk and that’s a good thing. Maybe Cardone will reconsider his own beliefs.
    And if you had watched any of the hundreds of videos of Kirk talking at colleges you would see that he has uncompromising Christian beliefs.

  2. Just an FYI:
    Charlie is pals with and collaborating with Big Money $cientologist “Grant Cardone”.
    Here’s a clip he put up, of Charlie at one of Grant’s “10x” events (thanks to Peggy Hall of “The Healthy American”)
    https://youtu.be/enzldsEw1XQ

    From “wikipedia”:
    “Personal life”
    “Cardone married Elena Rosaia Lyons on July 4, 2004. They have two daughters The Cardones reside in Golden Beach, Florida and Malibu, California. Cardone is a Scientologist, and according to The Village Voice he had reached the OT VIII level as of 2011. Elena is also a Scientologist and the couple are major donors to the Church of Scientology.”

    “Elena fundraised for Kari Lake in 2024 and is active in her husband’s businesses. Following the New York business fraud lawsuit against the Trump Organization, Elena set up a GoFundMe to help Donald Trump pay off his multimillion-dollar legal judgments. Cardone has been a consistent supporter of Donald Trump, and even engaged Trump as the headliner at one of Cardone’s 10X conferences in 2022.”

    ++++++++++++++++++
    That will look like nothing I guess, if you believe Trump is a “good guy”, and you believe “$cientology” and “Christian” is a good marriage.

  3. Michael Slovanos comments: Obi Wan Ryobi, can I suggest a theological correction to your claim that the soul is equivalent to
    God. That might be the case in new age/occult thinking, but not Christianity. The soul is the sum total of thoughts, personality, likes and dislikes. But the Triune God of Father, Son and Holy Spirit are separated from the human soul, body and spirit because of our inherent sin. That is overcome by repentance and faith in Christ, who is the mediator between man and God.

  4. They took Charlie in a car??
    Where was the ambulance?
    A Doctor doing first aid would attend to the person at the scene.
    They would put pressure on the artery to stem the explosive flow of blood and wait for an ambulance.
    The ambulance has the equipment needed to deal with a dying person.
    The advice is always to call an ambulance and attend to first aid at the scene.
    A Doctor knows that.
    Doctor’s don’t drag people into cars!!

    And dragging him into a car?
    Was there are huge trail of blood from the site to the car?
    There would be blood everywhere if it was spurting from an artery.

  5. So the report that he was seen the other day sunning himself on a Sydney beach, drinking a local beer, is false ?

  6. Pat says…”Because Chickens are the most delicious creatures in all of God’s Creation. Which is why it sucks to be a Chicken.”

    Bullshit. I am calling you out mate, I like chicken, but beef is the best. So it sux to be a cow too, even more so if you are a bull…It is also BETTER for you than chookenzez. Chookenzez, I just buy drumsticks…Dad was a butcher, no point in buying anything else to do with chickens, other than eggs. ‘The leg is the best meat’.

    Like my comment, or not.

    I am totally and utterly over the psyop that is the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Is he dead? I don’t care, they are trying to use whatever happened to start a civil war…So, don’t fight you arsehole Americans (they stole our country by force of arms- if we complained at least)

    Remember someone once said ‘THE WHOLE WORLD IS A STAGE!’

    They weren’t wrong, stop watching the bullshit, it is also right throughout the alternative media, not just the MSM.

    I learned a lot years ago from Alex Jones but what an actor that cvnt is now!

  7. Pat, excellent assessment of the situation…I’ll sum it up for the rest in 6 words.

    Believe nothing and believe no one!!!

    (Yoda, fictional character I’ll tap into for a little bit)

    “Do not simply believe what you read…what you hear or are you are told, KNOW! OR KNOW NOT! There is no such thing as belief in reality, only knowledge or false knowledge.

    Be careful of where your attention is taken my fellow children of God, for all are misdirection’s. All misdirections are that that take you away from the truth.

    All that takes you away from TRUTH seperates you from yoru soul, and therefore God.

    Classic Misdirections?

    Geelong and Hawthorn.

    Collingwood vs Brisbane…

    BREAD AND CIRCUSES…Same as Ancient Rome.

    I am watching Collingwood vs Brisbane.. Like a Jedi Master.

    I will not be deceived by the dark side of the force (the SOURCE).

    I will not be psychologically damaged by Collingwoods defeat, as many will be, I will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes.

    Who says they will be defeated? The game has four quarters, the opposition won the first…

    None of it matters except to those who attach themselves to such DISTRACTIONS.

    My advice to all AFL lovers, of all ages…GROW UP.

  8. Wait a Minute, if its fake, why would you do it, if its not fake, why would you do it? So many questions, so little time, UN Agenda 21 and 2030, about to happen. Prepare accordingly.. Great wReckoning we must have against The Great Reset. ………

  9. Wait a Minute, if its fake, why would you do it, if its not fake, why would you do it? So many questions, so little time, UN Agenda 21 and 2030, about to happen. Prepare accordingly.. Great wReckoning we must have against The Great Reset. ………

  10. Anomalies may exist with the shooting murder of Charlie Kirk but all I read are armchair/keyboard “experts & critics” flexing their “theory” muscles in order to entertain both themselves & their audience. Some of them are utterly mind-boggling.!

  11. Mr. NoWhere Man said – “… If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it, but if it is not, let your peace return to you.”

    Hey, if they have hearty Chicken Soup, they got my vote.

    Because Chickens are the most delicious creatures in all of God’s Creation. Which is why it sucks to be a Chicken.

  12. Jonathan said – “… the ones that think it didn’t actually happen the way it has been described…”

    Well, it rather depends on which description you care to quote, and exactly who that’s coming from.

    When you have conflicting stories coming from every direction, multiple accounts and manufactured narratives even from those notorious fibbers at the FBI, they can’t ALL be right.

    Never mind even Polish Benny from a foreign country PERSONALLY wading into the conversation to leverage whatever advantage he can.

    And then there’s the uncomfortable question of WHY and HOW things happened the way they “happened”.

    Awkward.

  13. “Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and attack you.”
    Matthew 7:6

    “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.”
    Matthew 7:13-14

    “Beware of false prophets and saviors. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them.”
    Matthew 7:15

  14. Hey folks,

    Lots of emotional discourse around the “Did he die or didn’t he?” controversy.

    I rather think that the OBVIOUSLY staged nature of the entire event opens the field to ALL comers, IMO no stone should be left unturned. The basic principles of ANY investigation being that evidence should be examined, theories tested and conclusions drawn.

    Whatever the ACTUAL Truth of the matter, it seems that POLARIZING the population has been the objective. Mission accomplished. The author’s approach of SHOOTING THE MESSENGER, of DEMONIZING people who contest the very same narratives which he ADMITS are open to question, demonstrates that in spades.

    Oh sure, question the FBI story, but query the EMOTIVE FOUNDATION of the chonicle? That’s heinous, a NO GO ZONE. Much like the alleged Sandy Hook shootings (remember all the anomalies with THAT little operation?) and dare we mention “The Holocaust”? And what about the 11 September 2001 False Flag? How DARE you besmirch the memory of the victims!

    Pretty soon we’ll have that well-worn meme flooding the media organs, folks, you’re a “Denier” (attach whatever prefix works, folks).

    Meanwhile, the author said – “… Turek says he ran from the tent towards the car, an SUV, with the security detail carrying Kirk…”

    Note, folks – “… towards the car, an SUV…” – where were the AMBULANCE and Emergency Services people which would otherwise be the NORM at an officially organised crowd event? And where was the POLICE QUARANTINE and INVESTIGATION of the crime scene after the fact?

    So many anomalies, folks, so very many peculiarities. No doubt at all that this was a PRE-PLANNED STAGED EVENT. What was its purpose? Look around, folks, you be the judge, but there’s plenty of red flags popping up already.

  15. Mr. Turek was not allowed by security to be close to Kirk, and more weird action, why they didn’t stop when they sow ambulance coming towards them . Some people want us to have faith in his death. Conspiracy as they say. Who is a halfwit in here, those pushing hard with their own understanding, or they are just paid scribes and will write anything for money, and i do not trust them.

  16. “Whatever town or village you enter, find out who is worthy there and stay at his house until you move on. As you enter the home, greet its occupants. If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it, but if it is not, let your peace return to you.”
    “And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.”
    Matthew 10:14

  17. Go ahead then, Cairns News.

    You sound just like the mainstream media now. They wholeheartedly agree with you concerning this issue. But I thought they were “fake news” and “leftists”?
    Oh, that’s only if it’s something derogatory about Trump.

    Just like Trump’s “Pam Bondi” sounds just like “Albo” and “Obama” too.

    “Attorney General Pam Bondi: “There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech, and there is no place…”
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/3okgy3hH8evY

    SELLOUTS. JEWTrump bootlickers.

    C-ya.
    I won’t let the door hit me in the ass as I’m leaving.

    (but that’s probably what that article is really about: getting rid of the thorns in your side that post here, besides propping up the fake MAGA martyr “Charlie Kirk” and serving the JWO.)

    Enjoy your echo chamber when it happens.

  18. Why have they not recovered the alleged BULLET, from the Mauser rifle?
    There is no evidence to prove Charlie was wearing body armour. If he was wearing body armour, it should be part of the forensic evidence.
    Before they hang the patsy, a forensic analysis of the bullet should be performed. As Man in America demonstrated, a 30/06 bullet fired into a watermelon, creates a massive exit mess.

    Oh, it got thrown out in the rubbish???

    As Derek Johnson explained, it was a PsyOp “assassination”, conducted by Special Operations forces.

  19. Michael Slovanos comments: Eric Velvik, did you listen to the video? Turek says he ran from the tent towards the car, an SUV, with the security detail carrying Kirk.

  20. Turek was not in the group of men carrying Kirk,s body to the suv,he was already at the suv when they arrived to put him in it,You can clearly see his back to the camera in white shirt doing nothing

  21. I really am not sure which cohort is more sick in the head. The ones who celebrate this heinous crime or the ones that think it didn’t actually happen the way it has been described and that Charlie is somehow alive and well. I think members of both these cohorts need to get help from an unbiased psychiatrist (assuming in this day and age one can engage a sane one).

  22. MICHAEL SLOVANOS IS A LIAR: FIRE THE DUDE
    KIRK ANIT DEAD

    KIRK AND HIS “ WIFE “ ERIKA ARE INTERNATIONAL PEDOPHILES ,CHILD TRAFFICKERS. Wake up world.

    Please see SILVIEWMEDIA substack below ( I can’t post links here , interesting! )

    ^ “MOAB! CHARLIE KIRK’S WIFE, US ARMY AND VETTED PEDOPHILES IN ROMANIAN ORPHANAGES – PHILANTHROPY THAT REEKS OF CHILD TRAFFICKING”
    “Erika Kirk worked with a Jewish family of pedophiles and the US Army, a client of brothels and human traffickers, to “help” orphans in Romania. So Christian of them!”

  23. darrylo2013 said – “… He was clearly wearing a body armour plate…”

    BS. In every respect. Funny how people can see what they WANT to see, even though what they’re “seeing” just ain’t so.

    And darrylo2013 said – “… which can be rigged to set of an explosive round with a remote device…”

    Can it? Never mind that the supposed “body armour plate” is purely unsubstantiated and decidedly tenuous speculation. If it was creepy Bill instead (and who wouldn’t pay to see THAT?), we might suppose the alleged bullet ricocheted off his wire-framed push-up bra and into his flabby genocidal baby-eating neck. But no, we were never going to be THAT lucky.

    I’m kinda tending toward the exploding bee theory, because who would suspect an innocent hard-working bee of having mayhem on its mind?

    Meanwhile, the author said – a bunch of stuff, rubbishing the suggestion that Mr. Kirk didn’t actually die. Whatever the case, one way or another, given all the anomalous aspects of the event, including all the conflicting ballistic theories, highly questionable FBI narratives, never mind the jurisdictional issues and the obvious lack of crime scene protocols, it’s looking pretty clear right now that we’re seeing some sort of staged event.

    We’re still waiting for the inside story on JFK half a century later, folks, so don’t be getting your hopes up on this one.

  24. Consider this, the body armour Charlie was wearing was rigged to send a small round into Charlies neck and this can be confirmed by watching the slow motion of the way Charlies T-Shirt reacted at the time of the alleged shot being fired from another location . He was clearly wearing a body armour plate which can be rigged to set of an explosive round with a remote device.
    Now lets look at the current theory around the sniper rifle round, shot from the roof of a nearby building roof. If a round was shot from a high power rifle from the distance stated and the round reflected off the body armour then there would be an exit wound and the high power round would have travelled on to another area outside the body as those high power rounds have velocity at a rate of around 2500 to 3000 feet per second . There is more to this than meets the eye. This is a very well thought out operation which the guy on the roof is a part of in order to deflect our thoughts to a shooter from a roof.

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