Letter to the Editor
The Torres Strait Islanders are a different race of unrelated people of Melanesian descent, their history goes back about 3,000 years diverging to a mix of Papuan and Lapita people 30,000 years ago. They are a well structured society with agriculture and productive communal industry, and warriors using bows and arrows. The aborigines never had enough smarts to copy their usage or society, they never rose above stone age weapons (National Geographic) had gardens or agriculture.
Aborigines are of Indian descent, sharing the same mtDNA, and two basal synonymous mtDNA polymorphisms G8251A and A9156T with the M42 haplogroup, shared exclusively between(pre-Dravidian) Indian and Australian aborigines — “These particular mutations do not exist anywhere else in the world; they are shared exclusively between a few isolated ancient tribes in India and Australian aboriginals” (Quote: Prof Dr Satish Kumar).
Ancient endo cast skulls have been found, strange Flat-Head skulls, others of very different ancestry from Kow Swamp, Nacurrie, Coobool Creek, Cohuna, Lake Mungo, Tasmanian Aborigines were Papuan Ulotrichi referred to by Professor Alfred Cort Haddon in his book, ‘The Races of Man’. We have photographs of the “little people (150 cm) of the Kuranda rainforest.
The many different races to have occupied Australia are scientifically proven by Dr Irina Pugach Dr Frederick Delfin, Dr Ellen Gunnarsdóttir, Dr Manfred Kayser, and Prof Dr Satish Kumar: Supported by research from Drs Norman Tindale, Joseph Birdsell, Peter Brown — and Professors Mark Stoneking, Allan Wilson, Alan Thorne, Colin Mackenzie, Manning Clark, Joseph Greenberg, Alan Cooper, Chris Stringer, and Dr Merritt Ruhlen. You cannot disprove their science.
With reference in the “Atlas of Foreign Countries”, written between 265 – 316 A.D., Chinese Sea Captains describes the mysterious great south land being inhabited by a race of one-metre-tall pygmies: Frank and Alexander Jardine settled Cape York recorded they witnessed the little Negritos being hunted down like kangaroos by the taller aborigines. In the 1400’s and 1500’s, Dutch and Portuguese sailors sighting the Western Australian coastline noted “tall natives in warfare chasing and killing hordes of “little” native peoples”.
There is no need for a referendum to include Aborigines in the Constitution — The are not and never were the nation’s first people, probably the tenth race to have lived here.
Sincerely
Gil May
Forestdale 4118
Thanks for publishing these facts. I have always wondered about the other archeological evidence that has turned up that seemed to point to other races inhabiting this land long before the Indo-Abos did. I, too, have read the reports of the taller Indo-Abos hunting down the Negritos (pygmy people). So much we don’t know, but your readers may find this article instructive.
https://cirnow.com.au/aborigine/
Good one Peter. Portugese and Spanish artifacts have been discovered over the years. During one of Ludwig Leichardt’s Queensland expeditions he reported a large (Spanish) cutlass was found in a cave in CQ Also he reported on (Spanish) body armour being found. In the 70’s a friend launched an expedition to look for the cutlass but was unsuccessful however he said older Aborigines he spoke to in the early 70’s were aware of its existence. Ed
@Peter Rainne. Real history, people and their lineages, migrations and stories are always more interesting than official promotions of modern political Agendas and the sacred Marxist oppression narrative. Your account gets in the geology of the sunken megalithic cities of the Asian subcontinent [Nephilim works or in older English gigantesgewerke] which coexisted with many human populations at varying stages of technological development.
Today the Agenda is to assign the ancient Megalithic works to people who we are supposed to call ‘First Nations People’.
This caper is coming unstuck in the US with the Shawnee and the Ohio Serpent Mounds. To build these mounds the civilization of builders would have to be able to triangulate (that is from the air) in order to make the perfect alignments with other megaliths. They would also have to know the 18 1/2 year lunar cycle and express it in earthworks. But official sources didtate that must believe the Mounds are Shawnee earthworks of a people who did not have avionics and never heard of the metonic cycle. But to say otherwise is incorrigibly racist and White supremacist etc.
The ABC has started with this caper here. Eventually the real megalithic works in Australia will be identified and these will very probably be from the same civilization that created the great Naja cities now in the submerged lands off the Indian subcontinent. I expect these will be folded into the UNDRIP Agenda in due course.
Were the Aborigines the First Astronomers? The only reason why this question can be seriously posed is because the astronomers who expressed their knowledge in Megalithic monuments all over the globe have been erased from the official archeological sources and their works now attributed to first nations people.
Were the Aborigines the First Astronomers
Australian Aborigines are the descendants of the Ancient Tamils.The Tamils descended from the ancient Nagars (serpent people) When Kumari Kandam sank, the Tamils who were left behind, became the Aborigines. Aborigines still have a bit of Nagar culture. e.g rainbow serpents, water serpents. In the film 10 Canoes. Tamils can understand a lot of the words of the Aboriginal language because it consists of Tamil words. The Aboriginal cultural psychology is not similar but is EXACTLY the same as the Indian cultural psychology.
About 400 years ago Porugal set up a settlement about 100 kls east of Derby. They had slaves and it was very successful. about 30 yaraleter Portugal closed the settlement due to the war with Spian.The Portugese used aboriginal names as code words among the islands etc to prevent any Spanish finding them. When the
Portugese left, they left the slaves behind. The slaves inter married with Aborigines in the Montgomery Reef and Kulumburu areas. You will see Aborgines today from these areas (Mowamjum) are very tall strong people,as a result of the African influence. Numerous other cultures have been and gone in Australia including the ancient Egyptians, Northern coastal Aborigines intermarried with Indonesians and Malaysian fishermen coming here for sea cucumber. (before white men came) Some of the Aborigines relocated to villages in indonesia.
No one is ever going to get to the bottom of the question of who was here first and whether today’s Aboriginal people were migrants from the subcontinent and killed the race of people whom they found in occupation of the continent.
I think the latter very likely as mass migrations (if successful) tend to involve extinction and depopulation events for those in occupation if the mass migration is successful.
We are talking about less than 4% of the population (counting the Box Tickers) and they are badly served by an Aboriginal Industry paid for by the Australian tax base to the tune of 4.5 billion / year. I think most of their fellow Australians would like to see them enjoy social progress and development in the way that best suits them and resolve the crime and corruption that we are trying to combat as well.
Mass migration is today being deployed by our corporate pretender government upon all the people living on this continent in the states of the old Commonwealth of Australia and constituted as Australians under the 1901. And this migration will be coming largely from African populations of the failed Marxist states created by the Communist aggression brought against the de-colonized populations of that continent in the last century.
Under the Australian Communist State, the current majority demographic, (White Australians) will have no rights of self defense against their crime because these migrants will be imported with Black Entitlement to Crime as a done deal. And it will conflict with the Black Entitlement to Crime currently enjoyed by the Blacks who are here – all demographics. The Muslims who will be arriving will have their own religious nationalism and political party for the objective of placing the entire population under Sharia Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir_(Australia)
Placing this state of affairs under United Nations ESG and UNDRIP ‘first nation’ minority governance through VOICE will be an unmitigated disaster for everyone.
Very well said tonyryan43. When the colonists came here the land was like a well kept park, all due to the expertise of the Aboriginal people who understood the land, the climate and the seasons and understood the value of Mother Earth. They still understand all this.
I totally support people reading serious literature and thereby improving their general knowledge and value to the community.
However, Gil May has used an anthropological document as a pretext to disparage Aborigines. The words…
“They (TIs) are a well-structured society with agriculture and productive communal industry, and warriors using bows and arrows. The aborigines never had enough smarts to copy their usage or society, they never rose above stone age weapons (National Geographic) had gardens or agriculture”.
Gil doesn’t even know National Geographic is a globalist shill. Nor does he understand anything about hunting in Australia.
As it happens, I do. I have hunted with bows, spears, and rifles. I have hunted everything from goannas to buffalo. And although my initial hunting experience was as a traditional Western hunter, in 1972 I discovered that a 9-year-old Aboriginal kid knew a thousand times more than me. So I quickly learned languages and absorbed their knowledge. To be honest, I am still learning.
So let’s look at the bow and arrow. I know of no wood in my locale that compares to yew or willow, so bows were never going to be a sudden fashion. But the real chicane to hunting with a bow is that an arrow is easily deflected by the grass stems that are typical of woodlands. But a spear brushes the same stem aside. That is why the bow and arrow was never adopted.
As for farming, the Australian continent is deficient in carbohydrate; therefore, energy must not be squandered. A major source, long yams, absorbs one-third of its calorific value in just locating, digging, washing and cooking it. It would not enhance survival to clear land, till the earth, plant seed, tend the weeds, and gather water in a climate in which this is not available for half the year; when one can simply pick the food as one strolls by.
When the Thangi berry was realised to contain 8o times more Vitamin C than a capsicum, Western entrepreneurs hastily cleared land, drilled bores, established water reticulation systems and then built a house and sheds; then planted orchards of the trees. This was hard work and cost around $300,000.
I would estimate they would make a profit about 150 years later. In fact, they all folded, sheepishly. Today, they pay Aboriginal kids to go strolling the bush and collect the right selection because the Thangi, renamed Kakadu Plum, ripens individually over two to seven months.
I leave it to you to decide who was stupid and who was intelligent to be guided by natural reality.
The conclusion we should adopt is that in some 20,000 years, Aborigines studied food cycles and seasons, matched to terrain, and followed these food cycles every year. Where I hunt, and also live for part of the year, I do the same. Am I stupid, Gil?
One final correction. Aboriginal societal structure is famously more complex and sophisticated than European or Thursday Island structures. I have only met a couple of Europeans who can actually grasp it, let alone comply with the thousands of rules.
This is the third time I have tried to post, maybe this one will go through.
I agree with tonyryan43 and D Johnston. The Aboriginal people did have a culture and I have read that they had sophisticated knowledge of agriculture, land care, and aquaculture and did not just live in lean to’s. Whether they were the very first people or not is not the issue, the point is they were here when the colonists came and they were occupying all of this land. They were here first.
Perhaps rather than the Voice, the government should do what Whitlam tried to do and give these people self-determination. It was his plan, and was well under way until they got rid of him. The next PM did not follow through, and neither has any other. See below link..
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1467-8500.12353
Without salt. Ed
isaac731 said – “The only question is, how did boomerangs and spears overcome superior military hardware?”
That’s not the ONLY question, but it’s a good one.
Have we forgotten that back in the day, Australia had carnivorous kangaroos and giant wombats, and other stuff too fantastical to mention?
D Johnston. Cannibalism was rife in New Zealand and well documented. There were many natives who opposed it and lived in fear.
Abos are certainly of Indian origin as you can tell by looking at pictures of the lowest caste who pushed out by newcomers from the north. I can believe most of the article except for the 30,000 years. If the population doubles every 100 years, the estimated population of 500k at settlement sounds about right if the first Abos arrived here about 2000 years before. The only question is, how did boomerangs and spears overcome superior military hardware?
Editor, cairnsnews said – “They often refer to their ancestors eating each other in an unfavourable manner…”
How do you eat someone in an unfavourable manner?
Is that like serving red wine with fish? Or tomato sauce with ice cream?
In any case, an interesting parent article – replete with blasphemy against the official Australian historical narrative. It remains to be seen how long the entrenched political imperative can hold out against a growing intellectual and popular recognition of the true Australian anthropological history.
I am afraid that DNA does not tell a lie it is the inconvenient truth.
yep..
Gaz. you raised the question of the holocaust. Now you wont want to hear this.
There was was no holocaust nor gas chambers. There are many books on the subject including Auschwitz: A Judge Looks At The Evidence, by
Wilhelm Staeglich.
If you wish for more titles drop a line.
Robert Faurisson a French professor is good. He was beaten up by the J’s and was saved by passers by.
To many titles, not enough space.
So if one was to believe the Old Testament
Genesis 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.
So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
then the so called “Aboriginal” were from this city, as our ancestors also.
Makes sense with the DNA evidence and the connection to so called “India”
seeing they are merely neighbours of Babel and probably carried over some of the Babylonic beliefs we see in Hinduism.
So if one takes those Biblical years into account then they may have been in this island for ? 3000 years or so ? isolated from Indian Hinduism, Buddhism etc, lucky them !
Hi Gaz, “because it is honourable and not honorable” very sorry that my incorrect “Australian” English which was in fact “American” has offended you and others. I am just an illiterate wog living in Oz since 40 years who has given up on grammar, political correctness, the “Commonwealth” (and other flavors) of so called global democracies.
And Gaz, you are right! We should all get our grammar and spelling right before the Australian dream has finally been transferred to little concrete cells in compounds for all Aussie inmates that do not fit the image of Australia and Australians under kosher WEF rule and NWO design.
Again, please except my sincere apologies.
The “First Nations People” in Australia were (and are) naturally the English (white and “Christian”) noble men that imposed chains and iron collars on the native black fellows (midget or not) and Commonwealth law onto the white convicts to rule Australia under the seal of infused kosher Royalty.
Hi Editor, “Not too sure about” what?
Not too sure about that D Johnston. Ed
Thank you tonyryan43, Beautifully stated – and loved “utterly shallow people who are incapable of seeing beyond melanin.” I so resonate with that. Despite having full blood generational Māori on one side of my ‘gene pool’ – due to also having French, I am not as dark skinned as apparently? I’m ‘supposed’ to be!?! And my features/build are more typically French than Māori – though the eyes are the dead give away so I’m told. If I had decided to reproduce – undoubtedly the child would’ve been of dark skin and more Māori features.
But I cannot count the amount of incredulously ignorant offensive remarks I’ve heard over the years. My favourite come back (with a sweet smile) is “Yeah well you don’t look stupid either”. They got nuthin to that. Do not provoke and awaken my inner warrioress lol.
I worked for years with Thursday Islanders, on the North Australia Railway and, believe me, there is no connection between TIs and Aborigines. Their cultures had nothing in common, and the phrase “Aborigines and Thursday Islanders” as a legal entity is the most crass example of blatant racism ever to emerge from the stupid and ignorant politicians who can only conceive that “Well, they’re all black, aren’t they”?
The genuine distinctions are about culture, not skin colour, which only has impact on utterly shallow people who are incapable of seeing beyond melanin.
On more occasions than I care to remember, I was told by TIs and Aborigines that I was black. They were referring to my attitude and values, not to my skin colour, which is so light as to be white to most people. And I place no value on genetics in this regard. I learned both cultures because I respected and admired both cultures. End of story.
Nice Kevin. Ed
This is my last word on this entire ludicrous debate…over to you tonyryan43 and vasilly orlow! “Indigenous Australians or Australian First Nations[2] are people with familial heritage from, and membership in, the ethnic groups that lived in Australia before British colonisation.[3][4] They consist of two distinct groups: the Aboriginal peoples of the Australian mainland and Tasmania, and the Torres Strait Islander peoples from the seas between Queensland and Papua New Guinea.” There it is. TWO DISTINCT GROUPS. Entirely different in language, culture and custom. Two distinct groups who can not and should not be lumped together. Just as Fijians, Samoans and Tongans are distinct – and not to be lumped together with Māori – which amazingly (in ignorance) still happens to this day. The true aborigines aka more accurately First Nation peoples’ (especially here in FNQ), have for tooooooo long been erroneously blamed for the misdemeanors and crimes perpetrated by Torres Strait individuals eg…the off-the-charts youth crime. I can unfortunately personally attest to this fact.
Addendum to vasilly orlow, re: “I do not agree with this Voice nonsense as it is just another government gravy train for the connected aboriginals and wanna be aboriginals to rip the system off.” That is precisely what is going on! And is from the exact same playbook that the Ardern regime has been using for some time. Paying off the Māori elites and hangers-on to not only sell out the Māori people but to create division and hatred between Māori and Pakeha. Basically attempting to ‘implode’ the nation in order to gain complete domination. Thankfully, the vast majority of ALL NZ’ers now see right through this evil plan, which ironically has only resulted in increased solidarity between races and against the Ardern regime. This has to also happen in Australia. People must not fall into the globalist trap.
I would not dare call my many blackfella mates liars, would you? They often refer to their ancestors eating each other in an unfavourable manner particularly in the Torres Strait and far north. Ed
Hi vasilly orlow, BRAVO! Truth in every single word of your well articulated comment. Thank God we have erudite and intelligent commentary from both tonyryan43 and yourself.
This article is extremely racist and shows and incredible level of sheer ignorance. Best covered by a few points.
1) whether aboriginals were around 30,000 years ago or 5000 years is completely irrelevant. European countries had numerous invasions and property lines redrawn over the centuries. The simple fact is that the colonial settlement of Australia with a large percentage of exported criminals is a fact. These settlers displaced aboriginal people including mass murder did happen.
The idiotic claim that aboriginal people were purely nomadic and did not own property is a bare faced lie. There are different named aboriginal groups with geographical boundaries and varying languages that totally refutes the nonsense nomadic claim.
There are records from the earliest explorers that described “garden like” forests ( meaning that aboriginals used controlled burns to get rid of excess fuel loads). There are also records outlining that aboriginals had tools for grinding native seeds and baking their version of bread in clay kilns. These records were suppressed to paint aboriginal people as pointless savages.
Anyone that has looked into English law would be aware that there is a huge emphasis on property rights. This came about over the centuries to stop over entitled royalty and lords from stealing property. There were several highly educated English Lords that did comment over the long term repercussions over stealing land from aboriginals – there was no war to justify the theft. That is why the Mabo decision came about. The bottom line is that many multi generational farmers have blood in their history over murdering aboriginal people and stealing their land.
I do not agree with this Voice nonsense as it is just another government gravy train for the connected aboriginals and wanna be aboriginals to rip the system off. Nothing is seriously being done about the terrible conditions of many aboriginal communities. None of these dodgy quasi government service providers are being held to account for their spending..
Hi tonyryan43, Suffice to say the whole tiresome cannibalism narrative has always been conveniently trundled out simply as a means to deflect and disparage. As with the debate over Kai Tangata (Māori Cannibalism)…despite documentation by the French Marist missionaries (in NZ during the 1800’s), stating they saw no evidence of this practice. As with that other old chestnut about the practice of scalping by Native Americans. It has long been proven that scalping was in fact introduced by the English and French colonists in their establishment of bounties. Again, as you succinctly say: “All publicly accessible history is revisonist.” Although I’d say it will eventually reach it’s ‘use-by date’.
Thanks D
Ed… nobody denied cannibalism in PNG, or Fiji for that matter. Why bring them into it? We simply have to agree to disagree. You want to believe Aborigines fed on people, I say that as there is no history of this elsewhere in Australia, you are pushing a barrow uphill. I could add, that I was selected for my current position because of a fifty-year engagement with and application of Aboriginal law and culture. I also accepted only clear evidence of massacres of Aborigines, rejecting any that lacked substance. And I object to any special laws based on race, as being racism. But if you believe different cultures and languages must not be recognised, you must have some interesting theories about education.
Gaz… here is a warning issued by medical scientists of the World Health Council: if there are legal penalties inflicted on people who contradict the official “truth”, we can be sure this is the enforcement of a lie. That was in reference to the mRNA jab, but this applies also to other official truths. It is fact that, in Germany, if you point out that no Jews were gassed to death in concentration camps during WWII, you receive a 7-year prison sentence. The same applies in France. Yet Indian experts on the burning of bodies, and the man who designed America’s gas chambers for executing criminals, all say the narrative is contradicted by science and experience. I have no position on this because I do not care. 47 million died in that war, 75% of them Russian. That is the crime that I object to.
Hi tonyryan43, Could not agree more. And “All publicly accessible history is revisonist.” Precisely.
Who started WWII? We are told it began when the British Empire declared war against Germany for invading poor little Poland. We are not told that the Poles had already killed thousands of German-speaking civilians, just as Nazi Ukrainians have been killing 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians for the past 8 years.
Today, we are told big bad Putin invaded poor little Ukraine, which in fact has ben a US puppet government since Victoria Nuland spent $4 billion forcing democratically elected Evtushenko to flee for his life, and then installing Poroshenko and, later the current Nazi.
This is in fact the 50th nation the US has invaded since WWII, always followed by stealing their resources.
Whew… Gil May sure has stirred up a hornet’s nest with his letter to the editor.
Perhaps we should start from the other end of the historical spectrum.
All publicly accessible history is revisonist. Respondents like Gaz need to grow up and realise they have been lied to by every leader for at least a century, just as they are being lied to now, by the WEF and their own politicians regarding age pensions, vaccinations, the mRNA jab, face masks, PCR tests, and unemployment levels.
As Lord Acton noted. “There are no great leaders, only bad men, and they write the histories”.
Ahh.. Don’t forget the flat earth! Address the issue! From my research Hitler sent several letters expressing his reluctance for war (scholars quote these) – but the Money Power wanted it – and so it was. If you think wars are caused by politicians you simply have no clue.
Jo. Pygmy Myth…!! It doesn’t really matter who is who or what is what. I just don’t like them being referred to as the ‘First Nations People’.
Footnote: Check your Spellcheck on your computer as I think it is set to American English & not Australian English, because it is honourable and not honorable. Have a Nice Day.
BJ You have to be kidding with your comment, WWI & WWII were forced onto Germany, it was Germany who forced the two World Wars onto the World. I suppose you think the the holocaust didn’t happen as well?
D Johnston. You are right.
“Needless to say, the spin generated by Hindsight Bias has created vast quantities of falsely recorded history”.
Never in history has there been as much falsely recorded history as that heaped onto Hitler and the National Socialists.
“conducting independent research to seek the truth,”
The world is blind to truth.
WWI & WWII were forced onto Germany. Germany saved herself by opposing the Bankers and creating their own money. Boom the economy and boom they were taken down.
Same for Lincoln & Kennedy, both created own currency.
I have spoken to Germans who know the truth.
In 1967, Australia held a Referendum ostensibly to state explicitly that Aborigines would be counted in the census.
At that time, “Aborigine” meant those persons, on missions and similar establishments who came under the care of the State’s “Protector of Aborigines” and lived primarily a native lifestyle. These people were almost totally dependent on the Government for sustenance, education and health.
Also included in the 1967 Referendum, without any debate being undertaken, was a clause that allowed the Federal Government to make laws specifically for Aborigines. This gave legitimacy for there to be two types of Australians; each type being under separate laws and, most importantly, benefits dependent on their racial background. It gave rise to a racially based welfare system, land-rights and all the other Acts of Parliament that have done great harm to this country and to those people at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder – especially those possessing some smattering of Aboriginal genetic makeup.
There is an urgent need to excise this clause from the Australian Constitution such that the Australian people explicitly tell the High Court of Australia that all Australians must be treated equally, regardless of race or gender, under the law. In doing so, Aboriginal welfare would have to be abolished as would all the other nonsense that seeks to make Aborigines somehow different to every other Australian citizen.
The madness must stop and any future Referendum must contain this question! “Should Government at Local, Territory, State and/or Federal level be allowed to discriminate either negatively or positively on the basis of race or gender?” “Yes/No”
And their sacred Marxist oppression narrative, together with their Aboriginal Industry (worth billions) to them and ZIP to White Australian tax base is starting to unravel.
https://xyz.net.au/2022/09/aboriginal-girl-attacks-white-mother-in-perth-cries-when-arrested/
Good one Jo.Ed
Amen! Ed
Hi Tony I don’t have time to dig out the eye witness reports from numerous early explorers and settlers in FNQ
but like you I live and work among black fellas and Torres Strait Islanders who told me of numerous early accounts of cannibalism. One that comes to mind in southern Australia is from Nancy Bates’ books. The Melanesians and New Guinea tribes were masters of cannibalism. As unpalatable as it may be and the ALP has tried to rewrite history it is a fact. Ed
Hi tonyryan43, Yes. Re: “And in Queensland, where actual armies were used to exterminate thousands of Aborigines, it was important to justify this…” Absolutely. When you break all the bs narrative down, what we’re seeing here, (you and I especially), is what is referred to in psychology terms as Hindsight Bias. Or at best, a regurgitation of such, due to erroneously adopted/accepted beliefs. This is yet another unfortunate human trait – which has been employed for eons to “justify”, distract and even exonerate acts of barbarism and atrocity committed by those in perceived control, against their fellow man – who they deem to be a threat and/or lesser than them. As we know, this has been inflicted upon first nation peoples’ the world over – as well as some other races. (We’re living through this right now on a global scale – in this war. Ironic really. A taste of our own karmic medicine perhaps.) Needless to say, the spin generated by Hindsight Bias has created vast quantities of falsely recorded history. However…truth may be buried, but it can never be buried deep enough not to eventually be unearthed. This “show us the evidence to prove the contrary” mentality is disingenuous and a cop-out. Those who are capable of conducting independent research to seek the truth, rather than adhering to indoctrinated ideology (or simply waiting to be spoon fed by others), will discover plenty of ‘evidence’ they believe to be lacking and/or non-existent.
Tony, can you supply any interesting information re the thousands buried in a secret place. Fascinating.
But, I will be the first to acknowledge that “a man believes what he wants to believe and disregards rest”? Words to a great song, “The Boxer” by Simon and Garfunkel.
The only report actually analysed that had a shred of evidence to back it up was the claim that some ceremony leaders had eaten part of the heart of a deceased man who was a valiant fighter, the claim being that it was believed his qualities could be consumed. However, this Queensland report has been duplicated nowhere else in Australia, which makes it intensely improbable.
But I can see you are a believer. There is no competition with beliefs.
And in Queensland, where actual armies were used to exterminate thousands of Aborigines, it was important to justify this by believing they were ridding the world of an ancient evil; of people doomed to extinction anyway.
Not one person I have ever met, who speaks the languages, understands the culture, and who knows the people, does anything but scoff at these absurd beliefs.
But back to Aborigines, thousands will swear on their mother’s graves that Aborigines killed one of twins, believing the other to be an evil spirit. I have met people who swore they had witnessed a twin left on a meat ant’s nest to be devoured. All pure bullshit.
Unsurprisingly, my response never made it.
Here we go again, the great episodic saga LOL.
Ed… there are hundreds of reports of flying saucers and ghosts, too; not one of them credible to anyone who kinda relies on reliable evidence. It is even more widely accepted that the universe can be explained by the Big Bang Theory, which I have never accepted as logical, and which has now been conclusively disproved in recent weeks as impossible.
Hi Tony unfortunately there was much cannibalism among Aborigines and it is well reported from last century
particularly on Cape York Peninsula, right down to the Jiman tribes in central western Qld. Ed
Hi Gil, I have heard parts of the Aboriginal language even soubd Indian too.
Gaz, Pygmy truth? Haven’t some wandered straight into Qld parliament coming down from the north of Qld? Look at Qld Health Minister Yvette D’Ath and her “bigger” sibling palace chook. Their tribe surely never could have never survived by hunting either. That’s why they became “honorable” in the new “Australian” world, and included NATIONAL museums to hide somehow uncomfortable truth that does not fit into the national money spinning scheme of foreign ownership and made up royal fairy tales.
Does it really matter who were the first inhabitants of OZ if we have become the last of ALL human tribes that once roamed FREE?
Those that are aware of the indoctrination that we are fed on many disparate areas of our short lives, may be interested in this great site [and it is free..put together with love for the truth search]!
pleistocenecoalition.com
Now up to issue #78. For those that have not seen it; I am sure will appreciate it.
Haha I’m assuming you mean Mr Johnston as Brian Johnston (no relation) – as auntieet refers to me as Warrior Woman DJ. Should change my pseudonym to that. Re: “Generally, all anthropologists in Australia and NZ have been complicit for more than a century.” Absolutely. And yes, academia are all up their necks behind this war.
To Mr Johnston and any other Kiwis around here.
What you say is correct. Moriori were there before Mauri, and the story is amazingly complex and, yes, you are so right, people who have interviewed the blonde and red-haired, green-eyed descendants of Persia and South America (mDNA-tested), and ID the thousands of skeletons buried in a secret location, have been threatened with death if they do not back off. I have their names and will connect when we have won this more urgent war.
Who is the academic bully? Generally, all anthropologists in Australia and NZ have been complicit for more than a century. If I had to pick a name, I would name the Leakeys of Oldevai Gorge fame. But as you intuit, the Fabian/Tavistock/Rhodes alliance is clearly lurking there in the background.
Right now, I am preoccupied with that part of academia that is trying to expedite the genocide of Aborigines triangulated by the Centre/NT/Kimberly region.
Hi tonyryan43, In Māoridom, there were the Patupaiarehe (or ‘Fairy Folk’) who dwelt in the forests and who the Māori claimed (and still claim) to have already been in NZ (possibly for around 3000 yrs) before the first Polynesians arrived between 1320 & 1350. They were pale to fair skinned people of normal stature with red hair – and not mythical as some pseudo ‘scientists’ would have people believe. The Patupaiarehe only disappeared with the arrival of the Pakeha and destruction of forest.
Tony. Thanks. You said there was no cannibalism. You may be right though I read somewhere that it did occur though I never knew if it did then why.
New Zealand also had waves of people before the current ‘indigenous’ Polynesian aka Maori and like in Australia NZ’s past is also covered up and by the academics who ought to know better. A bit like your scientists Tony.
The best I can figure at the moment is. The oldest in NZ is the Moriori who have told me they are similar to the Aus. Aboriginees. Then came the Waitaha who are of Persian descent, blond reddish hair. They came via South america and there is blond hair there to this day.
There are others though it is hard to put together.
There may have been a fair people who did build stone homes similar to old Wales.
NZ may have been first settled BC. There is evidence of human habitation under two ash layers from volcanoes which are pre-Polynesian arrival.
NZ has a fantastic history including a violent period. It is not recognised nor taught. There are other names Patupaiarehe, Turehu, Maruiwi. The Maori do have in their legends, the giants though they may only have been no more 7′ tall.
Australia and New Zealand are both under attack. Clue, Fabian.
The Tasmanians were the other last stronghold of negritos. One last thing, based purely on personal knowledge, my guess is that there were around seven Aboriginal immigrations, one being the Tiwi people, another, the people of east Arnhem and Wadeye, Anandilyagwa of Groote another, NSW a separate group, and the rest is pretty much guesswork unless genuine mDNA says otherwise.
As to the “little people”, a more appropriate term would be short stature negritos. Genetic evidence is claimed to point to negritos coming here in the Pleistocene and Aborigines in the Holocene. Me, I dunno, don’t care. But the evidence suggests the second wiped out the first. And just to ruin a lady’s memory of dear old daddy, he talked shite. There was no canibalism in Australia. For the simple reason, there was no need for it. Last detail, they did not depart from the Atherton rainforest for missions. An American team of Anthropologists picked them up and put them there, backed by the Queensland Government and the profession of Anthropologists, who wanted them out of the way.
BRAVO! tonyryan43. You once again nailed it – in all 3 episodes.
You’re OK, Brian. I was just rushed, trying to break up and post paragraphs. All good mate. We are on the same side in this war.
Tony. Gaz aside. What did I say that was so wrong?
Australia is under attack.
Oh, and just to explain to poor Gil why Aborigines did not use bows and arrows, as any bow hunter could tell you, these are useless in long grass, which covered much of this continent’s hunting zones. An arrow is easily deflected by a single stem of grass whereas a spear launched by a gaylpu or biditj, will brush the stem aside and hit the target. Second reason is that the kind of animal hunted in Australia is more easily dropped with a spear. With an arrow in him, he can run for miles, which wastes energy chasing him in this carbohydrate-deficient continent (actually the entire southern hemisphere).
It’s generally considered to be good advice to research before putting pen to paper. By the way, I have never heard of any of those supposed scientists because I live in the places they purport to talk about
And for readers who respect scientists, let me remind you, around 96% of scientists who are employed, are working against humanity and nature: creating weapons, biotoxins, dangerous pharmaceuticals, dangerous herbicides, pesticides, food preservatives, taste enhancers, pseudo-hormones, oil-based products, plastics, neurotoxins, plasticisers, artificial pathogens, vaccines, addictive drugs, cosmetic toxins, garment toxins, vinyl toxins, dangerous fuel additives. to name but a few.
(1) They cannot speak any Aboriginal languages;
(2) They know shit about hunting;
(3) They would be unable to offer a coherent explanation of Aboriginal law, social structure, physics-philosophy; or family structure;
(4) They have never lived with Aboriginal families whose culture and languages are intact;
(5) They are similarly ignorant on all other topics.
(6) They could not differentiate between agri-business and permaculture;
(7) They are probably a scientist, among whom are the most stupid and sociopathic people I have ever had the misfortune to work with.
As usual, my posts get erased, unless I episodise these. Gaz aside none of you muppets know what you are talking about, so don’t.
“The aborigines never had enough smarts to copy their usage or society, they never rose above stone age weapons (National Geographic) had gardens or agriculture.”
When I encounter people who make statements of this genre I know several things immediately:
Here’s another article on this subject, which may be of interest to some.
https://christianidentityaustralia.org/meet-the-real-first-australians/
Hi Gai Baxter, re: “I can’t see how that counts.” Yeah and I don’t know why we’re even playing into this deliberately laid globalist trap; inciting divisive, bigoted and ignorant “the aborigines never had the smarts” !!! nonsense, based upon Imperialistic indoctrinated ideology aka “you cannot disprove their science”. There is no science in conveniently skewed history. Whoever was here first, it sure as hell wasn’t the murdering, oppressive colonialists who caused destruction the world over. Now That is a proven fact. The only thing that matters, is that we are ALL here now – including peoples’ of many other races who arrived at varying points in time – and who have also ALL contributed towards shaping this nation. (Or maybe we’re going to start denigrating and attacking them next!) We should ALL be standing in unity against our common foes. Not indulging in petty counter productive distractions. That will cost us ALL immeasurably. Then any survivors can all debate who was here last….and who turned the lights off.
Sorry, this is the full link about the Australian Aborigine.
http://www.wabiz.org/Home/news/aboutwesternaustraliahistoryculture/the-myth-of-aboriginal-exceptionalism/the-extinction-of-the-australian-pygmies
This is more BS, the planet belongs to everyone & till we realise this the greed will live on.The indigenous are the supposed caretakers of this land & know more about it than most from a sacred & ancestral perspective cannot be ignored.
The extinction of the Australian pygmies.
From the 1940s until the 1960s, it was fairly widely known there were pygmies in Australia. They lived in North Queensland and had come in from the wild of the tropical rainforests to live on missions in the region. This was a fact recorded at the time not only in anthropological textbooks and articles but also in popular books about the Australian Aborigines. There was even an award-winning children’s book tracing their origins. The more famous photographs of the Australian pygmies were reproduced in both the academic and the popular literature.
You can read more here:
ww.wabiz.org/Home/news/aboutwesternaustraliahistoryculture/the-myth-of-aboriginal-exceptionalism/the-extinction-of-the-australian-pygmies
They are even trying to dismantle the so call Pygmy truth.
It comes from the Australian Museum and written by you can read more here:
https://australian.museum/learn/first-nations/debunking-australian-pygmy-people-myth/
It won’t be long before we are treated as foreigners in our own country. The queensland goverment is handing so much land back it is only a matter of time before we will have to pay to go anywhere. This move will cause friction
Gil; Well done! I’d be lucky to have six books that have been brave enough to discuss previous ‘races’ before our current ‘first nation’ [with evidence and references as back-up].
You regularly write informative letters to Cairns News…HOW ABOUT PUTTING A BOOK TOGETHER ON THIS VERY SUBJECT?
The ‘legal beagles’ and all the others that make part of their ‘ living’ off the ‘status quo’ might make life a bit harder than usual, though!
Put me down for six of the first copies please!
Then… Why are the Australian people being Taxed to support more Genocide???? I believe the amount to be in the $30 plus millions. Which is being paid to a group of Murderer’s??? History will tell you that the pygmies were here first!!!
None of this matters to the controllers who want to take down White Australia.
Kenya – gone
Rhodesia – gone
Mozambique – gone
South Africa – gone
Australia – next
New Zealand – next
We live in perilous times.
Who were the small people who were ‘eaten’?
Fabulous research. But as history has been rewritten, the truth will reach few people.
As I understand it, Aboriginals were nomads. They did not build roads, schools, cities, hospitals etc. and there was no civilization to speak of. As such, The British were correct in declaring Terra Nullus.
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/history-wars/2002/06/the-extinction-of-the-australian-pygmies/
Aboriginal Australian mitochondrial genome variation – an increased understanding of population antiquity and diversity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347126/
You commented, The Aboriginals were first before us. That’s what we are saying, they are claiming to be the First Nations people, and they are not.
The Aboriginals were first before us. To say there were those beforehand? Well that could be the same the world over. If a peoples no longer exist? I can’t see how that counts.
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Thanks Gil,
Your essay is precisely why some of the early books on this matter have been banned, or extremely difficult to get hold of.
The last one I read required payment of a $500 surety to the lending library to make certain it was returned to them.
The current ‘original inhabitants don’t want us to know that what they did is exactly what they accuse us of doing – displacing the peoples who were living here before them.
It’s all extremely politically based now.
Bronwen
A central Australian initiated elder told my dad that they ‘ate the little people that came before’ – the little people being the ones that he said produced some of the oldest rock art that Dad was being shown…
Absolutely correct. The Bradshaw paintings were never accepted by the people of the north, they painted over them, they defaced them, until recent years when they realised that if the paintings were not theirs then there were people here before them, so they changed their ideas.
I have said for years that the current Australian Aboriginal were not the First Nation people which they claim. The First Nation title was ‘borrowed’ from the American Indians. The Pygmy Aboriginal was here before the current Aboriginals. Why won’t academics speak out the real truth of who was here first. I also support your comment that they have representatives in Government and are not needed to be mentioned in the Constitution.