Juan O Savin and Sean Stone, from the Arcane to the Esoteric

by Alexandra Bruce

This is a wide-ranging conversation between Sean Stone and Juan O Savin about the Deep State “capture” of USA, Inc. and whether the military will finally get involved. Although the various topics aren’t always the most cheerful, the conversation is surprisingly delightful.

Chemtrails over Australia from Bureau of Meteorology

Right out of the gate, Juan talks about the military defense purposes of chemtrails and HAARP, seldom discussed and one of the main reasons for the secrecy around them that I covered nearly 10 years ago, which is that they are used to create missile defense shields.

Juan explains how they work in more detail: “There’s a military/security aspect to this that had to be there…which is the threat from Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs)…even from a rogue is real and you can’t get this material up 15 minutes before an attack, you have to have it there all the time and…it’s getting fine particulates into the upper atmosphere…in that 32-, 34,000-foot range…it goes out as this mist in the jet fuel vapor and then, as it disperses and you’ll see it rolling out after the plane is long gone, ten, fifteen minutes later and you’re looking at an area that’s a mile wide and it’s this dispersed cloud.

“The fuel disperses and evaporates away and you can actually see it from satellites, if you know what you’re looking for, in this dispersed fuel, you can see it in the infrared signatures and like that. It helps to patch up the ozone, in that zone where ozone’s created and that’s 29-, 33,000-foot zone.

“And then, those particulates are able to be pumped by the way that we send signals into that area and we can move the air, move the atmosphere move the moisture in particular ways and then in an emergency, we can concentrate certain types of frequencies in that area, resonate those particles – vibrate them, essentially at a very high speed and they act like a very… thin shield that … simulates a higher density…

Chemtrails over Australia

“An incoming missile, moving at high Mach numbers hits that and it heats up, way hotter than it’s designed to go and would damage or deflect the missile.

“And these types of missiles, if they don’t work just exactly right, they don’t blow up. Or if they do hit, if they’re deflected off by even just a few hundred yards to a hardened facility, they make a big noise, make a big flash but they don’t take out that facility…that leaves that facility intact, to then fire back.”

Juan’s statements are a fascinating confirmation of the report I wrote in March 2011 about AC Griffiths, who blew the whistle on this technology on the Power Hour radio show, hosted by the late Joyce Riley. Griffiths said it was a Black Budget program that was originally planned during the Reagan administration’s Strategic Defense Initiative (again, confirmed here by Juan) and that it was among the most “secretive things” that he had ever encountered.

It was code named “Project Cloverleaf” and it was being run out of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, from where he says it was being largely farmed-out to commercial aviation companies.

One wonders if COVID’s destruction of the airline industry has thereby made us less safe from incoming ICBMs – and if this is on purpose?

The two get into a host of other topics, from the arcane to the esoteric, in a conversation that I really, really enjoyed.